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Old 10-28-2016, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Guarantee all of them will reoffend.

Stoners and hood rats will end up behind bars again.
The only thing stoners attack are bags of Tostitos and Twinkies... none of them should be in prison for that.
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In recent years (maybe since privatization of prisons) the USA has become the world's biggest jailer. More than China, Russia, or anyone else. Many thousands are incarcerated for nonviolent "possession" convictions.

Obama should probably triple the number of commutations.
Being that Obama is the first Stoner President, He should EO Pot off Schedule I and retroactively expunge all pot related records. THAT would be the right thing to do.

He openly admits to actively using pot and cocaine when he was younger, so it makes him a hypocrite if he leaves this war on citizens in place.
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Old 10-28-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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This is why we don't need more gun control. Obama is running around commuting sentences for existing gun convictions, but for some reason we need more gun laws.

If this was such an important issue, then don't commute sentences for gun crimes.
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Old 10-28-2016, 10:13 AM
 
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This is why we don't need more gun control. Obama is running around commuting sentences for existing gun convictions, but for some reason we need more gun laws.

If this was such an important issue, then don't commute sentences for gun crimes.
We don't need more gun control because gun ownership is protected by the Constitution. Period.
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Old 10-28-2016, 10:18 AM
 
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Guarantee all of them will reoffend.

Stoners and hood rats will end up behind bars again.



Your racist rhetoric is disgusting.
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Old 10-28-2016, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Being that Obama is the first Stoner President, He should EO Pot off Schedule I and retroactively expunge all pot related records. THAT would be the right thing to do.
There's still time. He has 3 months remaining. Maybe he's just waiting for the election to pass before making his move.

Or maybe he's just waiting to hear from you. Send him an email.

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He openly admits to actively using pot and cocaine when he was younger,
Unlike his GOP predecessor, who never admitted to his cocaine use that was common knowledge.

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so it makes him a hypocrite if he leaves this war on citizens in place.
It would make him a hypocrite if he had signed those regs into law. He didn't.

He should do it to get the rabid right apoplectic.

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Old 10-28-2016, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Deport obama.
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Old 10-28-2016, 04:56 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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Prisons are big business. The war on drugs is big business. I prefer we use those resources on something more productive since this isn't the 80s and early 90s when we actually had high crime.
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Old 10-28-2016, 04:58 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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Deport obama.
Nah, you should go live in Mexico since you hate this country so much. I'm sure you'll love Mexico's criminal justice system.
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Old 10-28-2016, 04:59 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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We don't need more gun control because gun ownership is protected by the Constitution. Period.
Yep. We know we can restrict gun ownership. Period.
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Old 10-28-2016, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Almost all the pardons were on 3-strike drug convictions. Some of the offenders have served over 20 years on a lifetime sentence for carrying an ounce of pot on a 3rd strike count.

The prisons, federal and state, are bulging with drug offenders. They are costing us multi-millions, and many have no violent offenses on their records. During the frenzy of the No-Leniency Drug War of the 90s, a pot dealer could get a life sentence while a murderer could get release in 16 years.

Expect to see changes in the drug laws to be soon coming. Prison closures may also soon follow. Both have become self-perpetuating industries, the nation's incarceration rate is far to high and the penalties far too strict.

It's all a luxury that once made an earlier generation of voters feel safe, but none of it changed the use of drugs, and it's now a luxury we can't afford. And the drug usage is finally on a steady decline.
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