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Where do you get this nonsense about Trump voters being uneducated and underemployed?
Pure projection...but, fling it against the wall and hope it sticks.
But, it's more polite than anything that can be said for anyone who thought Hillary pandering to fringe groups who didn't number enough to win was a genius idea.
It is all about "keeping a woman out of the WH" to some.
It is all a "whitelash" to others (see Van Jones sorry ass last night)
It all about the resurgence of the KKK to others.
It is about hate and misogyny, and racism, and Islamophobia, Homophobia, etc etc.
It was not anything to do with failed policies and a corrupt person at the top of the ticket.
Even now, the libs still can't take responsibility for anything. It is ALWAYS something else that is to blame and never the reality of the situation.
Trump by far is a better option than Hilary. It had everything to do with policies. Nothing to do with anything you mentioned.
Time to turn off the news propaganda outlets that tell you what to think and start thinking for yourself.
This gets overlooked but I feel the healthcare premium hikes announced in October were a huge financial blow to a lot of middle income working Americans and with Hillary they saw that situation getting worse not better.
Yep. I wondered before the election if something would happen to delay the release of this inforrnation/delay the mailing of packets from insurance companies. My premium only will increase by about $17 per month with a similar policy, but I know.....just from the posts on CD alone....that many people 'got clobbered' by drastic increases large enough to influence the ballot box.
I didn't vote Trump, but I have family members that did. It wasn't that these issues you list were non issues, it was just that other issues were more important, like healthcare and employment. When you are worried about making a living and getting treatment for a sick child, those other things become less important.
I understand that these issues can become background noise if you are more worried about other things, but if you honestly think you are going to be able to better make a living and get better/cheaper treatment for your child because Trump is in office, I have some land to sell you on the moon. Would it have gotten better with Hillary? Probably not, but I was not a Hillary fan either.
The point is, if you honestly think a billionaire who screws his own workers, and makes his products in another country is suddenly going to be your savior, you have a few screws loose.
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Originally Posted by klaucka
And at the end of the day they really did not think Trump, despite some interpretations of his rhetoric, would undo civil rights legislation, overturn gay marriage rights or Roe v. Wade or ban Muslims from entering this country. This gets overlooked but I feel the healthcare premium hikes announced in October were a huge financial blow to a lot of middle income working Americans and with Hillary they saw that situation getting worse not better.
Well, he may not do any of that, but regardless of whether he does or not, those who voted for him made it clear that they didn't care if he did.
And again, if you think healthcare premiums are going down because Trump comes into office, then you are very naïve. (Not you specifically of course, but the grand "you" of Trump voters)
What I dont get is, don't Trump supporters notice that the guy is just a little....mmmm....*NUTS!*. Seriously, Politics and policy aside, he's just plain odd. Fasten your seatbelts. We're in for a wild ride.
I understand that these issues can become background noise if you are more worried about other things, but if you honestly think you are going to be able to better make a living and get better/cheaper treatment for your child because Trump is in office, I have some land to sell you on the moon. Would it have gotten better with Hillary? Probably not, but I was not a Hillary fan either.
The point is, if you honestly think a billionaire who screws his own workers, and makes his products in another country is suddenly going to be your savior, you have a few screws loose.
Well, he may not do any of that, but regardless of whether he does or not, those who voted for him made it clear that they didn't care if he did.
And again, if you think healthcare premiums are going down because Trump comes into office, then you are very naïve. (Not you specifically of course, but the grand "you" of Trump voters)
Desperate situations call for desperate choices. With Hillary there was ZERO chance of those premiums going down, with Trump maybe 1% but that is better than zero. And please stop saying they didnt care at all about social or civil rights issues, they just weighed the risk of not being able to afford healthcare vs. those civil rights being abolished. My brother in law, who is an engineer for a smaller company went from having decent coverage for his wife and two children that cost him about $2500 per year with premium and out of pocket costs to a situation last year where they were paying well over $12,000 per year with premium and out of pocket to a situation now where his company cannot even offer healthcare and he is forced to purchase a policy on the exchange at an even higher price and his company has completely stopped paying for any of his premium cost. My nephews are looking at college over the next few years and these financial hits will derail their college plans - and we are talking state universities not some high cost private school. It isn't hard to image how pissed off he is at the current administration that said "if you have your great healthcare you can keep that" and with Obama out campaigning hard Hillary they were selling more of the same when she got into office. I'm assuming you aren't facing that situation or your might have had to look at a desperate vote yourself. You can keep insisting that their vote means they don't care about these issues, but that just isn't the truth - my brother in law voted Obama in 2008. And the Democratic Party is completely missing it as well if they refuse to acknowledge the circumstances of these Trump voters - these voters feel like everybody else's civil rights and healthcare benefits are top priority while they are completely marginalized as taxpayers that are expected to foot the bill while they receive nothing in return. And as crazy as it sounds, he was considering Bernie f the DNC hadn't taken away his chances. The billionaire comment was a moot point for them as well, the Clintons are worth over $250M and by a lot of accounts screwed the people that their Foundation was supposed to help (just ask the Haitians), so neither candidate was scoring points on the character scale. One could also say there are a few screws loose voting for a candidate whose judgement was so poor she thought doing business ONLY on an unsecure private server while in a position such as SoS where the whole job revolves around classified information was actually not a bad idea.
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