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white working class voters] turned out in huge numbers for Trump. And I think that part of it has to do with our inability, our failure, to reach those voters effectively. Part of it is Fox News in every bar and restaurant in big chunks of the country, but part of it is also Democrats not working at a grassroots level, being in there, showing up, making arguments. That part of the critique of the Democratic Party is accurate. We spend a lot of time focused on international policy and national policy and less time being on the ground. And when we’re on the ground, we do well.
Lol can you believe this guy. All the other cable news outlets were promoting Hillary as much as her campaign team, but Obama thinks Hillary lost by not having Fox on her side, too? And who goes to bars to watch Fox News?
On any given day, Fox News viewership is about 1% of the American population. Anyone can check their ratings, including the very lazy Obama.
Obama had 8 years to reach out to the voters that he speaks about. Instead we got race huckstering, wars of choice, war on the middle class, amnesty for illegals, and the irresponsible rewarded.
This speaks for itself and the soon to be departed from the WH Obama.
Everyone needs to put the blame where it belongs, HILLARY! Hillary defeated herself.
I can't wait until Obama is gone either, the sooner the better. I don't think he is a bad guy BUT I think he has been the "stooge" to some bad guys from behind the scenes that were pushing for globalism by destroying who we are as a country.
Obama knows why Hillary lost, just listen to his attacks against her in 2008, they were awesome!
I think they lost in no small part due to the Democrat Mantra...go into an area, tell people how to live, and then leave them to fend for themselves....one only has to look at Democratic enclaves to see failure after repeated failure.....Chicago, where what, 60% of the city's budget is for law enforcement? It's THAT bad.....Cleveland......Detroit.......Baltimore.... .DC......Atlanta........LA.....where pensions are the only creative and consistent thing they can bring to bear while they literally run those city's into oblivion.....
You lost because frankly, you are running out of OTHER people's money....someone has to pay for all your "good ideas"....something that is strangely unfamiliar to those that want those "good ideas"......
What the right, however, doesn't get is that immigration is wide open to secure the future of Democrats...when you promise someone from the third world that you will have clean, consistent running water, food, shelter, transportation, healthcare and that the OTHER guy will pay for it, victory is all but assured.....
They know it, you know it, it's only a matter of time if you keep the borders open......A person from Venezuela, Colombia, Syria, Somalia isn't necessarily interested in becoming American. No, they simply want to a Venezuelan, Colombian, Syrian, Somali LIVING in America.
And THAT is a HUGE difference. Without assimilation into a free enterprise society where typically winners and hard work are rewarded and lethargy and malingering on other people's money is scorned there is no future but a Democrat's future.
Being Syrian in a the US where benefits are granted to "undocumented workers" (read: Illegals) are soaking up YOUR taxes to cover it, is a nice option compared to ISIS' treatment, wouldn't you say? And while I certainly can't blame the majority of them for WANTING free things, you do have to ask yourself, when is enough....enough?
Is it our responsibility to feed, clothe, educate, medicate, retire, house, train, and assist all 7-8 billion on the planet? When do we say, "our wealth has been diluted enough to where this no longer is sustainable".....500,000,000? 1,000,000,000? Give us a number on the left.
The irony being that once they have enough to hold power, they too will want to close the borders forever. And while that sounds harsh, just ask anyone that tries to step into Hungary as a Syrian as of late what THEIR treatment is like......try to cross over into a communist country unannounced and start demanding benefits and see how hard they laugh.
At some point even the UK has figured out they no longer can "afford" to feed the masses and all their issues.....the left simply didn't figure out that the MAJORITY of Americans didn't want to any longer either....they figure, it's better to have a job "at the plant" than to opine for one, wouldn't you say? Ask any laid-off steel worker from Cleveland how good things have been in the last 20 years......no, I think that "routine" America has had about enough. And THAT'S why Hillary lost despite the ridiculous amount of illegal popular votes to the contrary.
We better smarten up in the US. You can't feed everyone and at some point, much like a civil service pension, you simply can no longer afford it. It's unsustainable......maybe we really should take care of Americans first? Hmmmmmmmm? Go back to the days of foreign aid with the feeble mindset that sending money to corrupt country's makes a difference....one can only hope.
Time to close the borders to EVERYONE with few exceptions. Just can't afford them anymore. Let Canada, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Peru, Honduras, Haiti, Jamaica, Caymans, Spain, and others pick up a few hundred million more. They always seem to think it's a good idea anyway but, from what I understand, Norway and the UK are having severe second thoughts, aren't they? All sounds good until the bill comes due.....
You have to wonder, doesn't anyone want to overthrow their leaders in these countries anymore? An AK-47 is easier to get in some countries than a butter knife..well at least the butter anyway....shouldn't we be sending Chinese AK-47's as a form of "foreign aid" to let those that need them most, have a fighting chance of seeing a future at some point? Sure, it may be a bit noisey for a while but, sooner or later they tend to win and their kids get a future. Crops grow, peace is restored.....win-win.....It HAS to work because importing those "belief's" have proven to be a real collision course with ours....don't you think? (Attack at Ohio State to name one)......
You can take terrorists out of the country but, you can't take the terrorist out of some human beings....sheesh, even after all the Democrats have promised some are still never happy.....The kid was studying logistics....he had a future....contrast that to Somalia where his parents came from....now, let's look at an American exchange student....ever seen one of them go off and start trying to kill kids/people in their countries????
Maybe we should reconsider before the Democrats keep resettling the world in America....
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He blamed Fox News for the last FOUR elections for the devastating Dem losses... Fox News is not as powerful as Obama lies about, 95% of the media that people have real access to are liberal companies... the liberals basically control the information to people... it's a shame because the media was a protected entity to help people but the liberals subverted it... and now liberal media lies all the time...
I can't think of one instance in the past 8 years Obama has taken responsibility for ANY mistakes. He and his supporters think he's just perfect. Always someone else's fault. I don't see how you can grow as an individual when you can't admit you have any faults. It's like living life with blinders on.
On any given day, Fox News viewership is about 1% of the American population. Anyone can check their ratings, including the very lazy Obama.
Obama had 8 years to reach out to the voters that he speaks about. Instead we got race huckstering, wars of choice, war on the middle class, amnesty for illegals, and the irresponsible rewarded.
This speaks for itself and the soon to be departed from the WH Obama.
"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to WaldoKitty again".
white working class voters] turned out in huge numbers for Trump. And I think that part of it has to do with our inability, our failure, to reach those voters effectively. Part of it is Fox News in every bar and restaurant in big chunks of the country, but part of it is also Democrats not working at a grassroots level, being in there, showing up, making arguments. That part of the critique of the Democratic Party is accurate. We spend a lot of time focused on international policy and national policy and less time being on the ground. And when we’re on the ground, we do well.
Yeah, funny what happens when people hear the TRUTH.
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