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Given a CIA facilitated illogical media narrative that undermines the election results in the minds of the angry:
the media, liberal politicians, and pundits are going to be agitating for electors to be faithless in December and for Trump not to be inaugurated in January.
Beyond this, we may expect violence .
The flaw in the argument is that for an elector to be faithless on the basis of the perception that the election would have gone Hillary's way if not for the very real and legitimate DNC emails that were released, the elector must decide to delegitimize the personal agency of each individual Trump voter in the state.
Essentially, the elector must decide for each voter that he or she was incapable of filtering information or having deeper convictions as an adult citizen, and that the elector will instead cast their vote for them contrary to how they actually voted.
Such a decision invalidates the cognitive competency and agency of each voter, based on the elector's feelings on the subject.
It removes the voting public's voting rights, founded in the ever-continuing Leftist condescension that conservative voters are not cognitively able to think clearly (usually couched in a 'lack of education' narrative).
The fact is that I would have voted for trump with or without said emails. If I would have, then it can not be assumed that anyone else would have done anything differently.
The other fact is that fake news from the Left has done much to shape and recruit liberal voters in this nation.
Regardless, we will continue to see the constant agitation, based in a carefully crafted and spun narrative, like this:
Tweets from Keith Olberman
Russians interfered, Sec. of State nominee is a Putin pal.@realDonaldTrump wasn't elected - it's a coup. From 11/1
"To the extent that foreign interference in the United States presidential elections may have influenced the final result, I believe the electors have the right to consider that,” Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I.) said in a statement to POLITICO on Saturday
Additionally, the media is attempting to spin the Putin familiarity of Rex Tillerson, Trump's selection for secretary of State, as a characteristic that is potentially treasonous instead of beneficial to engendering peace with the second military superpower in the world. They leave out that such diplomatic ties for the Secretary of State are usually considered a good thing. What's next, a review of John Kerry's personal connection with Israel?
What may occur:
the agitation will continue. Trump will be inaugurated. The poorest and most desperate of the liberal underclass will riot and force as well as justify a crackdown on their actions. The liberal press will irretrievably lose their credibility and press reforms will be forced to be instituted in order to ensure public peace moving forward, in avoidance of socially destabilizing liberal fake news narratives.
The beginning of this action has already been passed by the Senate and the House, and will be signed into law. It seems to be a reaction to Trump's election, but it will be used on the liberal media machine as necessary:
Such action will provoke more rioting, and the crackdown will increase in intensity. At this point, the nation may de facto fracture if not break out into low intensity skirmishes between factions.
All because the liberals don't know when to stop doubling down and take their medicine so that the political pressure be released from half of the nation as it did for the other half in the past eight years.
Sore losers can, indeed, permanently ruin the game if they are not careful.
What will also occur is a call by Republicans and Democrats for a thorough Congressional Investigation. I generally don't like to make predictions with such certitude, but given the statements of Senators McCain, Graham and especially Sen Corker it looks like a good bet.
Deflection and spin aside, you're okay with Russia interfering with the election to help your candidate? You don't think that undermines our democratic system?
Of course they don't. Corruption only matters when it's on the other side of their aisle.
Deflection and spin aside, you're okay with Russia interfering with the election to help your candidate? You don't think that undermines our democratic system?
Name your deflection and spin or have such comments considered to be "deflective" noise.
Regardless, an investigation at this particular juncture serves only to undermine social stability. There is literally no other possible justification for it.
What can be the outcome? Trump not being inaugurated?
You'll have a hot civil war should that occur.
You either want that or you don't. If you don't, then you would agree with me that this is the worst possible time for this type of agitation that can otherwise certainly be delayed for two months.
Such an investigation, and the surrounding media noise, would be much more responsibly handled after the inauguration. So, again, the only purpose of this agitation is social instability.
Second, the emails and their contents are valid. More concerning would be if they were invented by Russia. They were not. This is the actual "spin" being conducted by the MSM that is most important to identify.
Second to undermining Trump's presidency based on a yet to be proven allegation that is being taken up by the media as if evidence has been offered, the purpose of this MSM narrative is to take the focus off of their disgusting behavior as an explicit Leftist propaganda organ leading up to the election (in a vain yet certain to be unsuccessful attempt at regaining their credibility), as well as to take the focus off of the contents of the emails.
Last, I'm good with agreeing that "interference" by Russia is a bad thing even when they are releasing valid emails that everyone should have knowledge of, if you are willing to concede that the McCarthy hunts for "Russian interference" were valid and should be reopened so that we can discover how communists have "interfered" in our government from the end of WWII forward. Deal?
Deflection and spin aside, you're okay with Russia interfering with the election to help your candidate? You don't think that undermines our democratic system?
What evidence is that Russia interfered with the election?
We've gotten a lot of spin, and propaganda, but what actually hard evidence is there that Russia interfered with the election?
Name your deflection and spin or have such comments considered to be "deflective" noise.
Regardless, an investigation at this particular juncture serves only to undermine social stability. There is literally no other possible justification for it.
What can be the outcome? Trump not being inaugurated?
You'll have a hot civil war should that occur.
You either want that or you don't. If you don't, then you would agree with me that this is the worst possible time for this type of agitation that can otherwise certainly be delayed for two months.
Such an investigation, and the surrounding media noise, would be much more responsibly handled after the inauguration. So, again, the only purpose of this agitation is social instability.
Second, the emails and their contents are valid. More concerning would be if they were invented by Russia. They were not. This is the actual "spin" being conducted by the MSM that is most important to identify.
Second to undermining Trump's presidency based on a yet to be proven allegation that is being taken up by the media as if evidence has been offered, the purpose of this MSM narrative is to take the focus off of their disgusting behavior as an explicit Leftist propaganda organ leading up to the election (in a vain yet certain to be unsuccessful attempt at regaining their credibility), as well as to take the focus off of the contents of the emails.
Last, I'm good with agreeing that "interference" by Russia is a bad thing even when they are releasing valid emails that everyone should have knowledge of, if you are willing to concede that the McCarthy hunts for "Russian interference" were valid and should be reopened so that we can discover how communists have "interfered" in our government from the end of WWII forward. Deal?
Under such an event Trump would be replaced by a different Republican by the Electoral College.
Lastly there is the issue everyone seems to be forgetting. Look I get that many are happy that Hillary lost but what happens when it's reversed and it's the Republicans that are being targeted by a foreign country? There are reports that the Russians also hacked the RNC servers but did not release the obtained data. I wonder why? Gee, could they be using that data to obtain the GOP's compliance? I wonder ....
Sucks for the Trumpkins but they are going to have to see their man be replaced by a different Republican.
Deflection and spin aside, you're okay with Russia interfering with the election to help your candidate? You don't think that undermines our democratic system?
Care to comment on the millions of dollars Clinton collected from third world crap holes?
Under such an event Trump would be replaced by a different Republican by the Electoral College.
Who, if I may ask?
I don't think that's accurate. Trump had no personal connection to the hacking. Trump is not being indicted by the press, and thus would not be passed over for some other Republican. There is no foundation for that outcome.
The election result in favor of the Republicans is what is being indicted by the press. Thus, any other result would necessarily have to find in favor of Clinton.
Lastly there is the issue everyone seems to be forgetting. Look I get that many are happy that Hillary lost but what happens when it's reversed and it's the Republicans that are being targeted by a foreign country?
See my aforementioned implication in regard to McCarthy. The conservatives have been shouting about foreign communist interference in the government and social fabric of the United States for decades.
For most of the twentieth century, communism was equivalent to Russia.
Since the conservatives began raising the alarm, the liberal press has been repressing that alarm. Why? Because social and economic Marxism undertows work in their ideological favor; not to mention any possible sympathy with communist Russia itself as a possible ideological anchor for their views.
Thus, no cigar. We know that the liberal establishment will care less should there be foreign interference that works in their favor. We've been attempting to route out the Russians and their ideological allies for decades.
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Originally Posted by WIHS2006
There are reports that the Russians also hacked the RNC servers but did not release the obtained data. I wonder why? Gee, could they be using that data to obtain the GOP's compliance? I wonder ....
We'll never know unless it happens. Everything else is speculation.
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Originally Posted by WIHS2006
Sucks for the Trumpkins but they are going to have to see their man be replaced by a different Republican.
Unfortunate for your political calculations, I think not. See my linked-to post above. The democrats will not get to use their own incompetence for the reason as to why they replace the opposition's president-elect. It won't happen, and if they attempt to use this simpleton's plan then they are likely to create social chaos either because it succeeds or because it fails.
Keep your pants on people. We have seen corruption before and all kinds of politicians fall.. What you going to do if this time it was your candidate? Fight with the neighbors? Make them come arrest you? In the end the law, or fed or local or even the nat guard will come and restore peace of the few upset. And I mean few.
Imagine what the next campaign would look like. ouch.
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