The small-town way of life is unustainable (generations, illegal, Marines)

[jetgraphics]

Originally Posted by jetgraphics

http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12773.htm
Q: How much U.S. currency is in circulation?
A: There was approximately $1.45 trillion in circulation as of April 6, 2016, of which $1.4 trillion was in Federal Reserve notes. ($4,375 per capita)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financ..._United_States
". . . The financial position of the United States includes assets of at least $269.6 trillion and debts of $145.8 trillion to produce a net worth of at least $123.8 trillion."

If I may point out - how did Americans get into minus 145.8 trillion dollar bills with only 1.45 trillion in circulation?
Could someone be engaged in FRAUD?

And if all loans were called due on demand, what happens to all those debtors who cannot find sufficient dollar bills to pay their creditors?

Better not think about that.
Nothing to see here.
Move along.
Go home.

[IAMDWRECK]

Originally Posted by clikrf8

........national parks, BLM Land for hiking and camping, etc.

lol I read this as Black Lives Matter Land

[IAMDWRECK]

Originally Posted by tamajane

1. Liberal hypocrites, so tolerant but NIMBY.


2. There was something called opium dens once, not a big thing in small towns.
In the late 60s & 70s big cities like New York were crime and drug pits. Heroin was a city problem. Small townies smoked low quality weed and drank Pabst beer, crime was cow tipping and doing donuts in the 7/11 parking lot. Things have gotten worse in small towns and suburbs but not as bad as urban areas outside the bubble. We have a lot of cultural and social problems in the US that is widespread. Add financial stress and long commutes to crappy jobs that may go away at any time, of course it is problematic.


3. Small towns have no opportunities now, that is the problem, haven't you heard the voice of the people? You cannot live in some cities without exposing your family to crime and poor quality of life, gentrification did not take like in Portland and its lovely havens of hipster cool. Regular people don't want that anyway, they want safe, clean middle class areas which don't exist in a lot of cities, not pretentious planned urban fake bubbles of smug hypocrisy.

1. Nimby? As in NOT IN MY BACKYARD? lol Not I. I am an advocate for urban development and infrastructure in cities that are growing and HUBs (Not cities that are just sprawls continuing the redistribution of its same population to escape undesirables ie Saint Louis, Memphis).

2. Factual data supporting your unsubstantiated claims? I can't find much. I did find some articles saying rural teens are more likely to abuse opioids, meth and other stimulants though.

Detour: Teens in Rural Areas More Likely to Abuse Painkillers

3. That was my point.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by Goinback2011

Most urban cores are kept alive by government spending. Try pulling the plug on federal money going to city governments, universities, medicaid and welfare programs for a few months and see what happens.

And let the country and the people go to hell. We understand your position.

[Icy Tea]

In Pa small coal towns have become places where immigrants come to live. Houses are dirt cheap and can be rented through section 8 or even purchased. There are few local jobs but with living expenses being low they can have families live reasonably comfortably on welfare. And if the father works and commutes outside the area and the family still gets social services, they can do even better.
I can't say these towns are coming back, but they are transitioning to something. But urban areas are also not thriving and have also become very similar to the small towns. And as was said, if social services were ever done away with, both would become ghost towns.

[charmen]

Originally Posted by gladhands

You know all of these sad, economically depressed, former mill/mining towns? There's no reason for them to exist. Once upon a time, Americans moved for economic opportunity. They didn't demand that jobs come to them. If the only reason your town existed or group was the presence of some factory or mine, then in the absence of said factory or mine, your town has no reason to exist. We have let people who feel that they are entitled to an unsustainable, small-town lifestyle dictate the political and economic fate of our nation. They'd rather gamble on someone who promises to reopen the factories then re-train or go to the major population centers where the work is.

Pick up the movie "Roger and Me" a Michael Moore Doc-then maybe you'll understand?

[scarabchuck]

Originally Posted by Roadking2003

Actually, it's very efficient in many cases.

That is what I was thinking. We have a cottage in a rural area, about 4 hours from home. Many of the locals , barter.


Also , for those that think you "need" to live in a big city to live and survive obviously don't know about the Amish. Many of them live off grid and they seem to be pretty self sustaining. Sure, it is work and a lot of it, but it is doable.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by charmen

Pick up the movie "Roger and Me" a Michael Moore Doc-then maybe you'll understand?

I've seen Roger&Me, funny thing is is those on the right should support what Roger Smith did moving production to Mexico, saving on labor costs and increasing share price; I mean, that's the capitalism that right wingers love so much.

So which is it?

[1AngryTaxPayer]

As a percentage, yes. But, more people live in small towns than ever. Not surprising as we are heading torwards 400 million in the US.


I guarantee someone living in a small town can weather a SHTF scenario much better than apt dwellers. We had a one day outage and people were freaking out. No food, no water, no gas.

[Freak80]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

I've seen Roger&Me, funny thing is is those on the right should support what Roger Smith did moving production to Mexico, saving on labor costs and increasing share price; I mean, that's the capitalism that right wingers love so much.

So which is it?

"I want socialism for me, capitalism for other people."