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Old 02-12-2017, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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No. The press and polling orgs have no credibility, which is clear to anyone who has been paying attention.

Moreover, there is an obvious national subversion issue that needs to be and will be dealt with. It threatens democracy. Skewed polls, largely due to unbalanced sampling, is part of that issue. The bureaucratic and press subversion of the office of the president is another aspect of the issue. All that the continued agitation does is show us your heads as they pop out of their holes. I encourage you to keep it up.

What might upset you is when your thread gets deleted for duplicating a recently dealt with topic on the forum, in this case many times over, which is against forum policy.
Ok, I get it, the numbers upset you.
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Old 02-12-2017, 10:52 AM
JRR
 
Location: Middle Tennessee
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I have some friends who voted for Trump because they wanted change and did not like Hillary. They are now having second thoughts as they believed that all his primary bluster was a show and that he would get serious and concentrate on governing once he actually got elected. They are not too wild about his spending so much time tweeting about personal affronts and opinions and loading up his administration with the very people he railed against in the primaries.

I wonder how many other Trump voters are starting to waver a bit on their support at this point?
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Old 02-12-2017, 10:59 AM
 
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I have some friends who voted for Trump because they wanted change and did not like Hillary. They are now having second thoughts as they believed that all his primary bluster was a show and that he would get serious and concentrate on governing once he actually got elected. They are not too wild about his spending so much time tweeting about personal affronts and opinions and loading up his administration with the very people he railed against in the primaries.

I wonder how many other Trump voters are starting to waver a bit on their support at this point?



Probably not. You're forgetting his opponent
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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I tend to agree, the Democrats were weak and determined to make Hillary Clinton the first woman President, even though she too was deeply unpopular. The Democrats deserved to lose.
It's painful, but sometimes the Democrats need to lose badly when they get off the reservation and start thinking they are diet Coke Republicans. Let the GOP overreach like they always do, while giving the Democrats an opportunity to do some soul searching. That's the problem inherent within the Democratic Party. But, that's how we got FDR. Republican disaster after Republican disaster and we got Medicare and Social Security
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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It's painful, but sometimes the Democrats need to lose badly when they get off the reservation. Let the GOP overreach like they always do, while giving the Democrats an opportunity to do some soul searching. That's the problem inherent within the Democratic Party
I hope they use this opportunity to self reflect and get in touch with America again. They seem all too happy to represent the coasts but have forgotten about all the people in the middle. They need to get in touch with the Honey Boo Boo crowd that Trump owns.
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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I hope they use this opportunity to self reflect and get in touch with America again. They seem all too happy to represent the coasts but have forgotten about all the people in the middle. They need to get in touch with the Honey Boo Boo crowd that Trump owns.
Trick is to finding a way to entertain their racist tendencies without giving white supremacy legitimacy. The GOP did it before with their "coastal elites" attitude and it worked. They suckered in poor rural whites and convinced them to slit their own wrists in the name of cultural populism. The SJWs also did nobody favors either I do have to say, and that's where Bill Maher is right on the money, telling the SJWs to go f*** themselves and he's one of the most liberal "mainstream" guys.

Me and Michael Moore are from the rust belt, and while I was too optimistic about Hillary, Moore knew what was up.
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Here
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I have some friends who voted for Trump because they wanted change and did not like Hillary. They are now having second thoughts as they believed that all his primary bluster was a show and that he would get serious and concentrate on governing once he actually got elected. They are not too wild about his spending so much time tweeting about personal affronts and opinions and loading up his administration with the very people he railed against in the primaries.

I wonder how many other Trump voters are starting to waver a bit on their support at this point?
Suuuure you do. It's been 3 weeks.
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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geee what a surprise when you have 99.9% of the media are liberals,,,,,,and vote democrat,,

they protect the democrats and attack republicans...

i see it every night..

obama was treated like a unicorn and trump like a disease..



this is one of the reason trump won......got so sick of seeing one sided bias news
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:12 AM
JRR
 
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Probably not. You're forgetting his opponent
No doubt about that; kind of like me drawing a 5ft tall opponent for one one one basketball. I wonder though, if maybe in hindsight, Kasich or Bush or even Rubio might now not seem so bad after all.
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I hope they use this opportunity to self reflect and get in touch with America again. They seem all too happy to represent the coasts but have forgotten about all the people in the middle. They need to get in touch with the Honey Boo Boo crowd that Trump owns.
I think a lot that will depend on whether Trump actually produces the high-paying low-skill manufacturing jobs he has promised all those people (without unions). He doesn't believe in raising the minimum wage, so that is not going to increase wages.

If wages remain stagnant for them (as has been happening for the last 35 years), or if the cost of living goes up due to protectionism and trade wars, those people's lives will not be much improved. All he's proved in the past is that he can enrich himself.

Whether he can do it for others remains to be seen--he's made all kinds of promises to people. Higher paying jobs seem very tied to technology and would require skills, education and training or unions.
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