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Please, The Republicans Created Al Qaeda in Afganistán to stop Soviets from invading...
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Obama being no better than neocons is hardly comforting. Obama merely placated the bankers in his first term. I still preferred him over Romney, until surprise, surprise he started war mongering like a maniac in his second term.
Obama being no better than neocons is hardly comforting. Obama merely placated the bankers in his first term. I still preferred him over Romney, until surprise, surprise he started war mongering like a maniac in his second term.
Very well put. Not one banker was ever prosecuted for the meltdown of 2008/09. Obama bombed 7 Arab countries with no plans on what to do afterwards. ISIS is the result.
The West (and especially the USA) has been meddling in the Middle East for decades. Very many (I would even assert the majority) of the problems that we now are facing in the Middle East are a culmination of our inability to mind our own damn business and stay out of others' affairs. This includes the rise of the Islamic State.
Anyone who can't see this simply doesn't have a strong grasp of history and foreign policy.
Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.
Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?
Brzezinski: It isn’t quite that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.
The US via Carter and Brzezinski knowingly made it a theater of a proxy war to lure the Soviets .
Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.
Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?
Brzezinski: It isn’t quite that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.
The US via Carter and Brzezinski knowingly made it a theater of a proxy war to lure the Soviets .
Jimmy Carter was "weak", that's why he wasn't reelected and part of that weakness was the fact that he endorsed the muslims in Afganistán but didn't train them filled them with weapons, and money to start winning, then Reagan out of nowhere came to be the tough guy in town and made Bush Senior to drive CIA training of Afgan Muslim Fanatics and gave them even More money and More weapons far more than "Weak" Carter. That Reagan toughness allowed Afgans to win to soviets, but at the end afgans didn't want US in Exchange to Russia. a]fter that Muslim fanatics formed Al Qaeda.
All guerrilla wars are exactly the same; for as long as there are combatants willing to fight, the fight will go on.
The names of the organizations may change, the leaders and members change, and even the cause may shift and change, but until the will to fight leaves, the fight continues.
It has been this way since the dawn of civilization.
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The West (and especially the USA) has been meddling in the Middle East for decades. Very many (I would even assert the majority) of the problems that we now are facing in the Middle East are a culmination of our inability to mind our own damn business and stay out of others' affairs. This includes the rise of the Islamic State.
Anyone who can't see this simply doesn't have a strong grasp of history and foreign policy.
And obozo's been at the wheel for the last 8. Credit earned
Jimmy Carter was "weak", that's why he wasn't reelected and part of that weakness was the fact that he endorsed the muslims in Afganistán but didn't train them filled them with weapons, and money to start winning, then Reagan out of nowhere came to be the tough guy in town and made Bush Senior to drive CIA training of Afgan Muslim Fanatics and gave them even More money and More weapons far more than "Weak" Carter. That Reagan toughness allowed Afgans to win to soviets, but at the end afgans didn't want US in Exchange to Russia. a]fter that Muslim fanatics formed Al Qaeda.
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I am not sure what the added cometary was about. You said the Republicans created Al-Qaeda when its quite evident that this has gone on with both parties , but initiated under the Carter administration. Its also quite clear that the US was not playing defense in this theater.
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