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Old 01-08-2017, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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The success of fake news during this election, whether intended for monetary or political gain, proves that wide swaths of "the American people" are truly woeful at assessing credibility.




Like those "fake news" polls that showed Hillary winning by double-digits?


The turn-out at Trump rallies vs. Clinton's should have tipped off pollsters (any that cared) that their polls were way off.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Like those "fake news" polls that showed Hillary winning by double-digits?


The turn-out at Trump rallies vs. Clinton's should have tipped off pollsters (any that cared) that their polls were way off.

Actually the final polls were pretty much accurate with the exception of some Rust Belt states.

The polls caught a Trump surge at the end, beginning after Comey reopened the email investigation.

Having said that, online polls, are worthless.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:56 AM
 
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Please provide a link to prove that the "vast majority of Americans" don't believe Obama?Thank you.
Whether they believe him or not he upheld very few things he said he would do. In most cases he even did the exact opposite.

Did he end the wars? No. Did he start new ones unlike what he promised? Yes. Did he prosecute the bankers? No. Did he continue to bail them out? Yes. Did he shut down the lobbyists revolving door to the White House? No.
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:12 AM
 
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Aww, that is funny, I am not an American because I am not in favor of bending over for Putin and Russia to take it like a good puppet like your dear leader, the Orange Clown Monster. I am sure Putin calls Trump every night to sing him to sleep with his soothing voice.

Anyone who would be willing to take Russia's side is not an American. That would be our Snowflake-Elect Tiny Hands Trump.


Was Mark Felt an American?
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:17 AM
 
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Actually the final polls were pretty much accurate with the exception of some Rust Belt states.

The polls caught a Trump surge at the end, beginning after Comey reopened the email investigation.

Having said that, online polls, are worthless.






You really believe that?
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The Senate and the House of Representatives were well aware of the Russian hacking story and they reaffirmed that Trump is the 45th President of the United States. Some of them actually had better information than you do!

Let the guy take office and see how this plays out. Personally I would much rather be friends with another nuclear superpower than be enemies. I see that as only suicidal and not environmentally friendly!
I would like to see our relations with Russia improve but being friends is not a policy. We will see if Trump changes our policy, will he agree with their annexation of Crimea and their aggression in Ukraine. We have many common goals as in the space program and fighting terrorism but they are making life difficult especially in light of their hacking activities. It will be interesting to see what Trumps policy will be regarding Russia and NATO.
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I would like to see our relations with Russia improve but being friends is not a policy. We will see if Trump changes our policy, will he agree with their annexation of Crimea and their aggression in Ukraine. We have many common goals as in the space program and fighting terrorism but they are making life difficult especially in light of their hacking activities. It will be interesting to see what Trumps policy will be regarding Russia and NATO.
We have reciprocated and made life hard for them. It is in our best interest to be friends. Of course that does not mean that friends always agree. But I would like to think of friends discussing their problems other than declaring war - which benefits nobody. We just want a fair deal and we, as well as them, want to survive.
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Old 01-08-2017, 08:08 AM
 
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Whether they believe him or not he upheld very few things he said he would do. In most cases he even did the exact opposite.

Did he end the wars? No. Did he start new ones unlike what he promised? Yes. Did he prosecute the bankers? No. Did he continue to bail them out? Yes. Did he shut down the lobbyists revolving door to the White House? No.

Did Congress let him do any of the things you say?No they did not.
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Old 01-08-2017, 08:09 AM
 
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Like those "fake news" polls that showed Hillary winning by double-digits?


The turn-out at Trump rallies vs. Clinton's should have tipped off pollsters (any that cared) that their polls were way off.

Were they fake or just plain wrong,Trumpetters don't realize there is a difference.
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Old 01-08-2017, 08:10 AM
 
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Did Congress let him do any of the things you say?No they did not.
Congress had nothing to do with any of them. It was his call to end the wars. It was his call to not start new ones. It was up to him to cut off the lobbyists.
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