Stunning!!! 83% Believe Wikileaks, 17% Believe Obama's US Intel Officials (programs, states, FBI)

[Enigma777]

People who trust Wikileaks and its narcissistic criminal leader are fooling themselves. They are as bad as the Russian government. People who complained about being spied on by the NSA and trust Assange are hypocrites.

"...WikiLeaks wants to start building a list of verified Twitter users that would include highly sensitive and personal information about their families, their finances and their housing situations..."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.3af3e78741ea

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by pknopp

No but I believe it contributed to her getting beat badly.

The electoral college is obsolete in calculating the popular vote as everyone can vote now. Thse who chose to vote picked Clinton

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

Explain how they were corrupt then ?

We've done pages after pages on this.

"And at this point, what difference does it make"?

[illtaketwoplease]

I lost faith in Assange as a neutral actor when he admitted he had Trump emails and didnt release them.

Please provide a link to where he said that.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

There are a couple of posters who's argument goes from " she lost because she was a bad candidate and the leaks did nothing" to ...................."the leaks did it because it showed she was corrupt"


Those people arent going to ever pick a side and stick to it, they just dislike Hillary Clinton.

Many people simply disliked Clinton. It's why no one showed up to her rallies. This was brushed off as irrelevant. It wasn't.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by pknopp

We've done pages after pages on this.

"And at this point, what difference does it make"?

Pages of your argument being debunked

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by pknopp

Many people simply disliked Clinton. It's why no one showed up to her rallies. This was brushed off as irrelevant. It wasn't.

Im sorry, I must have missed the part where Trump won the popular vote. Or where there was no one at Hillary Clinton rallies.


Trumps crowds were bigger, no question, but claiming that no one showed up or that she was unpopular is a lie.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

Im sorry, I must have missed the part where Trump won the popular vote. Or where there was no one at Hillary Clinton rallies.


Trumps crowds were bigger, no question, but claiming that no one showed up or that she was unpopular is a lie.

Whatever. I was speaking more about the huge rallies that Sanders held.

[illtaketwoplease]

it's called denial...

[CapnTrips]

Originally Posted by TwoByFour

Personally I think the pendulum was due to swing to a Republican president and that no matter who the Democrats fielded, he/she would have been defeated. Polls showed people detested Trump as much as people detested Clinton, so it was a race to the bottom really. Sad moment in American politics.

Absolutely right. The pendulum has been swinging regularly every eight years since Bush Sr. The further is swings one way, the greater the tendency to swing back, and Obama really pushed it to the left a ways.