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Old 01-18-2017, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Probably about the same as the left does when CNN, etc, brand fake news as real news.
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:04 AM
 
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The difference in you and me is that you TRUST Mr. Trump's good intentions. I trust this con-man about as far as I can throw a railroad car, because I understand the way he has manipulated everyone around him throughout his life. At his age I surely do not believe he has turned over a new leaf.

Beyond that, this is an old, old strategy. A free press is one of the most important pillars of democracy. No demagogue or tyrant can stand the light of day when the people have the freedom of the press. Take that away? Stick a fork in us, we are done.
The beating heart of our democracy is a free press and honest and fair elections.

Trump is trying to undermine both.
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:06 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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Please--it doe not matter how 'diligent' they are (and many are 100 times more diligent than Fox), he simply denies reality. He denies he said things that are on video and calls it fake. He denies facts. Cold hard facts.

Example? He pretended to be 'John Barron' on phone calls to the press. He then denied that he did that. It was then proven that he had admitted to it. He denies he ever said many things until it is presented to him in a preserved tweet, or on tape from the Howard Stern show, or printed in an interview.

That is not calling anyone out. And let's face it, Fox and Sean Hannity present not only extremely slanted news, but at times--false news--and Trump has never once "called them out." Perhaps because Hannity campaigned for him and he was BFF with Ailes?

Did you hear him at his 'press conference'? If he liked what was printed, he commended them--if he didn't he called them fake.
I've never been able to figure this out. Watching Trump reminds me of a t-shirt slogan from the '70s (quote originally attributed to W. C. Fields): "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull****."

My MIL pulls similar stunts. "I never said/did that." Right. Then I guess the rest of us must have been subject to mass delusion.
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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I'll consider mainstream news to be the "real news" again when they start to cover left, right, independent, and alternative views equally. And when they verify information as factual before reporting it. In other words, I'll take them seriously when pigs fly. Until then, Trump is correct in that CNN and such is fake news. 95% of what they say is just liberal establishment bias progaganda.

The biggest reason the left votes how they do is because the media makes them think that way. "Oh dear, this article says Trump is bad, and that Hillary and Obama just want to help people!" Seriously, think for yourself. If the media reported everything honestly and objectively they'd probably hate Obama and Hillary as much or possibly worse than Trump, or at the very least have a more informed opinion of conservative or independent viewpoints.
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:19 AM
 
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The beating heart of our democracy is a free press and honest and fair elections.

Trump is trying to undermine both.
Yes indeed and in fact, because of its importance in a free society, the press is the only economic enterprise specifically mentioned in the United States Constitution.

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Old 01-18-2017, 10:19 AM
 
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Please--it doe not matter how 'diligent' they are (and many are 100 times more diligent than Fox), he simply denies reality. He denies he said things that are on video and calls it fake. He denies facts. Cold hard facts. ...
Facts mean nothing to Trump and apparently, nothing to Trump followers.

Kellyanne maintains we can't hold Trump to the truth as he doesn't know what the truth is.

All righty, then.

I can't tell you how many times I've posted accurate facts in response to "misinformation" posted on this forum.

The same poster will post continue to post the same "misinformation" over and over.

Either they see it on Fox, read it in the National Enquirer/Breitbart, hear it from Rush Limbaugh, or just pull it out of thin air.

When fact-checkers check up on Fox, over half of what Fox is spreading around are lies.

"This scorecard shows the ratings for statements made on air by Fox, Fox News and Fox Business personalities and their pundit guests. Rulings do not include statements made on air by politicians or paid spokespeople."


FOX's file: | PunditFact

Among the out and out lies told during the period they were vetting statements:

SANDRA SMITH
"Almost 95 percent of all (Planned Parenthood) pregnancy services were abortions."

GAVIN MCINNES
"50 percent of murders in Texas have been linked to illegal aliens."

ANN COULTER
Says South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley "is an immigrant."

GRETCHEN CARLSON
"Most polls show foreign nations have lower regard for the U.S. now than they did before Obama’s time."
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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I'll consider mainstream news to be the "real news" again when they start to cover left, right, independent, and alternative views equally. And when they verify information as factual before reporting it. In other words, I'll take them seriously when pigs fly. Until then, Trump is correct in that CNN and such is fake news. 95% of what they say is just liberal establishment bias progaganda.

The biggest reason the left votes how they do is because the media makes them think that way. "Oh dear, this article says Trump is bad, and that Hillary and Obama just want to help people!" Seriously, think for yourself. If the media reported everything honestly and objectively they'd probably hate Obama and Hillary as much or possibly worse than Trump, or at the very least have a more informed opinion of conservative or independent viewpoints.
Bias does not negate fact. Fake news literally means false information.
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:31 AM
 
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Default How do you feel about Trump branding real news as fake news

It's just another facet of his knee-jerk childish reaction to any criticism.

It only works with his followers, who have no shrunk to about 37% of the public.

He's gonna be entertaining, folks. A 70 year old boy child in the WH.

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Old 01-18-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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When that actually happens, I'll let you know.
WATCH: Trump Blasts CNN Reporter: You're Fake News - Fox Nation
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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It's just another facet of his knee-jerk childish reaction to any criticism.

It only works with his followers, who have no shrunk to about 37% of the public.

He's gonna be entertaining, folks. A 70 year old boy child in the WH.

A senile toddler...brings Benjamin Button to mind...LOL
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