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Old 04-19-2018, 11:48 AM
 
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Ban the Box : Effective today Los Angeles making it illegal for employers to ask about criminal background on job apps (employment, minimum wage)

I guess Harvey Weinstein will appreciate this some day.
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Old 04-19-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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Wait till the first paroled murderer kills someone at work.
Companies can still do background checks in Ban the Box areas. Companies can still ask about criminal background too. You didn't know that?

Here is a list of cities and states with various Ban the Box policies. The list is large.

http://www.nelp.org/content/uploads/...ocal-Guide.pdf
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Old 04-19-2018, 01:10 PM
 
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Companies can still do background checks in Ban the Box areas. Companies can still ask about criminal background too. You didn't know that?

Here is a list of cities and states with various Ban the Box policies. The list is large.

http://www.nelp.org/content/uploads/...ocal-Guide.pdf
This is true - most "Ban the Box" laws provide that you cannot ask about criminal history on the initial application (or at the first interview). They do not prohibit background checks, nor do they say that employers may not ask about criminal history at any point. The idea is that the "first impression" should be about what is directly related to the job, and if they look interested then they can then check into the other details.

Also, most BtB laws exempt certain positions and/or employers (like schools and those working around children) from the restriction.
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Old 04-19-2018, 02:07 PM
 
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It's happening all across the country. And then there's the fact that the debt to society had already been paid.[/quote]

Paid their debt to society? How about paying back for all the free room and board, MEDICAL CARE, clothing, transportation, recreational activities in the yard while they were incarcerated?
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Old 04-19-2018, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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It's happening all across the country. And then there's the fact that the debt to society had already been paid.
Paid their debt to society? How about paying back for all the free room and board, MEDICAL CARE, clothing, transportation, recreational activities in the yard while they were incarcerated?[/quote]

Yeah good point . We should charge criminals for their incarceration costs .

It would be another reason for people not to commit crime .

“Yo homie I ain’t going to jail I can’t afford dat bill “
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Old 04-19-2018, 05:51 PM
 
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Easy way around this - just front end the website of the company with a box - you have to click the box saying you are not a convicted felon to access the website at all. Application, along with all other online resources is inside...thus protected from criminals. Anyone that checks the box is denied access - TOS says if you lie, you agree to pay the company $1000.

Now you don't have criminals filling out applications OR visiting your website. Win-win.
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:08 PM
 
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Paid their debt to society? How about paying back for all the free room and board, MEDICAL CARE, clothing, transportation, recreational activities in the yard while they were incarcerated?
Yeah good point . We should charge criminals for their incarceration costs .

It would be another reason for people not to commit crime .

“Yo homie I ain’t going to jail I can’t afford dat bill “[/quote]
Might aswell go back to crime..
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:54 PM
 
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Easy way around this - just front end the website of the company with a box - you have to click the box saying you are not a convicted felon to access the website at all. Application, along with all other online resources is inside...thus protected from criminals. Anyone that checks the box is denied access - TOS says if you lie, you agree to pay the company $1000.
How could that access restriction be enforced? After all, think about those websites that to enter you have to "certify" that you are at least a certain age - how is that enforceable?
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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America's government : of the criminal, by the criminal, for the criminal?
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:55 PM
 
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A real terrible example of government overreach
Is it bad that the government is restricting access to government-imposed facts?
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