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You can find lots of sexist and horrendous text in bibles, you don't even have to try hard.
In fact I am betting there are folk from other religions looking at the bible, and saying "how the F can Christians condemn our religion when theirs is so F'ed up.
Or did you think the western religions were sweet and innocent..
Closing the doors , building walls, starting tariffs wars... yeah that will help export markets...
Trump is a follower of Peter Navarro, Peter is smarter , much smarter than Trump and can convince him of to follow his wacky econ.
Navarro, had some great ideas, a strong book , but the last decade he has flipped and wants to build a massive trade wall, he believes China will eat us WHOLE and is convinced that hiding is the best plan.
I am buying euro denominated investments.
The lie is that all ideologies are equivalent. Which is preposterous on its face.
I am no defender of "Western" religions - not in the least. I'm not Christian and certainly do not defend the Bible. But I also do not lie to myself, like you do apparently, for the sake of political correctness that all religions are equivalent, have the same hold on their adherents, and lead to the same outcomes for members of their society. Your cognitive dissonance notwithstanding. There is a reason the biggest bunch of non-signatories to the universal declaration of human rights are...Islamic countries. And that reason is ..ideology (religion, specifically). If you think that contemporary Christianity is as potent in influencing its believers as contemporary Islam is - well what can one say to such a bald-faced denial of the actuality.
As for Mexico - they should agree to pay the wall as long is it is built on Mexican pre-1824 territory & State borders. I'm sure they'd be happy with that as they'd get back California and other areas.
Communications and technology being what it is today I don't think its possible to be so isolated as the OP says. We even know whats going on in North Korea though I don't think they want us to. And we will be letting people in. I think we will be finding out who they are first.
Why don't some people want to protect the country we live in?
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We can't hide behind walls because we are scared of people who look/pray/speak different or because we are afraid they will compete with us for jobs. That's the reality - for better or worse - of the world we live in today.
Isolating ourselves from the world will create a void that will be happily filled by China, Russia, and new organizations like the proposed CANZUK union. Canada doesn't need us, Mexico doesn't need us ... but we sure do need the free movement of goods and people. Would you rather pay $20 for a head of lettuce or $1,000 for an iPhone?
All across the world (except for the US and Western Europe where Russian propaganda has successfully led people to cower in fear of anyone who looks or speaks or prays differently) countries are uniting and forming unions. In Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Bloc we have the Union State/Eurasian Economic Union. In Latin America we have CELAC, UNASUR, ALBA all of which are closely aligned with Russia and China and led avowedly anti-American leaders like Raul Castro and Nicholas Maduro.
We're endangering our national interests because some rubes in Kentucky and Alabama are scared of Muslims and Mexicans and/or were too stupid to learn marketable skills. Donald Trump isn't make us great again, he's taking us backwards towards becoming an irrelevant rump state. An American version of North Korea. But hey, as long as we stick it to the darkies and the Muzzies it's all good right?
You win the prize for the best left wing bleeding heart liberal thread which is filled from top to bottom with anti-American nonsense really not even worth the time reading. Congrats
As for Mexico - they should agree to pay the wall as long is it is built on Mexican pre-1824 territory & State borders. I'm sure they'd be happy with that as they'd get back California and other areas
That is ridicules. It would only start a migration out of those areas to north of the boundary.
Originally Posted by Vegabern No worries, with Trump leading us to the dark ages no one will want to emigrate to America anyway. Problem solved. No wall necessary.
Immigrate, not emigrate.
It wasn't actually incorrect. The choice between emigrate, immigrate, and migrate depends on the sentence's point of view:
Emigrate means to leave one's country to live in another.
Immigrate is to come into another country to live permanently.
Migrate is to move, like snowbirds migrate for the winter.
We can't hide behind walls because we are scared of people who look/pray/speak different or because we are afraid they will compete with us for jobs. That's the reality - for better or worse - of the world we live in today.
Isolating ourselves from the world will create a void that will be happily filled by China, Russia, and new organizations like the proposed CANZUK union. Canada doesn't need us, Mexico doesn't need us ... but we sure do need the free movement of goods and people. Would you rather pay $20 for a head of lettuce or $1,000 for an iPhone?
All across the world (except for the US and Western Europe where Russian propaganda has successfully led people to cower in fear of anyone who looks or speaks or prays differently) countries are uniting and forming unions. In Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Bloc we have the Union State/Eurasian Economic Union. In Latin America we have CELAC, UNASUR, ALBA all of which are closely aligned with Russia and China and led avowedly anti-American leaders like Raul Castro and Nicholas Maduro.
We're endangering our national interests because some rubes in Kentucky and Alabama are scared of Muslims and Mexicans and/or were too stupid to learn marketable skills. Donald Trump isn't make us great again, he's taking us backwards towards becoming an irrelevant rump state. An American version of North Korea. But hey, as long as we stick it to the darkies and the Muzzies it's all good right?
You could have made a valid argument against building a wall with Mexico, but you didn't. Instead, you presented a view of the world that does not match reality and you insulted millions of Americans just for the heck of it. I used to think Trump's focus on building a wall was naive and simple minded. But now I'm beginning to understand his brilliance. The wall is just one small part of his plan to actually enforce existing law. It really is more of a symbol of border enforcement and the upholding of our immigration laws more than anything. It will make a great visual image of his entire policy. The other aspects of his plan, such as hiring more border patrol agents, ceasing "catch and release", etc, are less tangible and harder for people to envision. The wall will be a visible, physical object which will be easy for him to point to and say "see, I'm keeping my promises and enforcing the law". Even his harshest critics will have to acknowledge that he actually did it.
Your naive faith in these so-called unions that countries are supposedly forming all over the world is touching. The European Union is in a crisis that might see it collapse. The same political and economic elite whose policies have so ruined the middle and working classes of the western world are in a panic. They have brought this all on themselves. If it weren't for their failed and flawed policies, we wouldn't have a President Trump right now. As for Europe, Brexit was just the beginning. The European Union in its current form probably won't survive for another 10 yrs at the most. And contrary to what you posted, Canada and Mexico do need us. To be fair, we need them too. I don't support all of Trump's positions, but it is refreshing to have a president who isn't afraid to say he will put the American people first in all his policies. The fact that that is controversial to some people is really quite mind boggling.
Communications and technology being what it is today I don't think its possible to be so isolated as the OP says. We even know whats going on in North Korea though I don't think they want us to. And we will be letting people in. I think we will be finding out who they are first.
Why don't some people want to protect the country we live in?
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Nobody is saying that we can't protect our country. I for instance have made it quite clear that I favor expanded workplace enforcement. I also support the use of 'smart border security'; checkpoints here, some fencing there, the use of drones, blimps, and radar, etc.
I just don't support Gestapo style mass roundups and building a massive wall like in the Alt-Right wet dreams.
Irony: When someone says "this is an ignorant" thread, and yet they can't spell "borders" correctly.
To the OP, I agree. We're going to be in a lot of trouble. Isolationism never works, especially when the world has become so interconnected.
That's what I said in another thread, and I think it's an important point. There is a much more important wall at stake: the wall Trump is building around us and the rest of the world. Isolationism is a bad policy and alienating our nearest neighbor to the South by saying "Build a wall and pay for it or else!" is NOT a great start to a presidency. We need to be cordial with other countries, particularly the ones with which we share borders. People who have disputes with neighbors know what a nightmare that can be, and there is no reason Trump needs to make demands and anger Mexico. We're talking world peace at stake and our general standing with the rest of the planet. It's not just about the good old US of A. Trump, and many of you, are being shortsighted here.
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