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Old 01-31-2017, 09:42 AM
 
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Gosnell, Game Changer

When filmmaker Ann McElhinney attended the serial killer’s trial, she was not pro-life and disliked pro-life activists.

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But Gosnell changed things for McElhinney. “I got an education on abortion because of researching and investigating this story,” she tells me. In the case of Gosnell, she has focused not only on the unborn who died and the infants born alive and then killed, but also on “two vulnerable women” who died there, one a young African American and one a refugee, she points out, adding:
Hundreds of African-American babies were born alive and then murdered. Where is the outrage for those black lives that matter? Progressive Pennsylvania with all of its government agencies couldn’t have cared less. Where’s the outrage for that?
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So many times when pro-life legislation aims at regulating abortion clinics, it’s not a stealth strategy to make abortion illegal law by law; rather these are often attempts to exercise some oversight and ensure that women are not being forced into an abortion, psychologically coerced by circumstances and a culture that seems to point toward abortion, even expecting or preferring it in certain circumstances.



She has a book out and is trying to independently distribute a movie about this.

Horrific stuff here. She urges the media to tell the truth and put aside their views... she urges politicians to stop betraying the innocent children.

All of these people protesting refugees, and the media covers them like the world is about to end.

The March for Life, which included the VP's participation, virtually got no coverage.
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Old 01-31-2017, 09:49 AM
 
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Not pro-life? Does that mean he wanted everyone including himself dead?
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Old 01-31-2017, 09:53 AM
 
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Gosnell was a butcher. I was horrified at the evidence presented at his trial, and astonished by his continued support by the left. There is something about supporting abortion that forces you to turn off a part of yourself as a human being.
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Old 01-31-2017, 09:57 AM
 
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Gosnell was a butcher. I was horrified at the evidence presented at his trial, and astonished by his continued support by the left. There is something about supporting abortion that forces you to turn off a part of yourself as a human being.
See post #2.
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Old 01-31-2017, 11:32 AM
 
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You guys are aware that Gosnell was a criminal, right?

His "clinic" is exhibi A of what it will look like if you manage to criminalize abortion. Women do not seek out dangerous, unsanitary clinics for the kick of it, they do so when they feel there are no other options. And it's the anti-choice organizations who work tirelessly to remove their options.

Underground, seedy, dangerous, illegal - that's what Gosnell's clinic were, and it's the inevitable consequence of your vision come to life.
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Old 01-31-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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You guys are aware that Gosnell was a criminal, right?

His "clinic" is exhibi A of what it will look like if you manage to criminalize abortion. Women do not seek out dangerous, unsanitary clinics for the kick of it, they do so when they feel there are no other options. And it's the anti-choice organizations who work tirelessly to remove their options.

Underground, seedy, dangerous, illegal - that's what Gosnell's clinic were, and it's the inevitable consequence of your vision come to life.
I agree with this and am aware of this specific case.

IMO it is important to keep access to safe clinics for women who want abortions. Limiting the service leads women to go to people like Gosnell who was a criminal and IMO is not reflective of abortion services providers nationwide. This was a horrific, specific case and is not something that is routine. Allowing access to safe clinics, not shutting them down over silly policy passed in states, will provide more safe medical offices for women to go to and receive good care.
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Old 01-31-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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...astonished by his continued support by the left.
Who the eff has been supporting Gosnell? I'm fairly leftie and have yet to see anyone raise their voice in his defense.
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Old 01-31-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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Meanwhile, what's to stop a pregnant woman from going on the Internet to look up what the hell she is supposed to do with a coat hanger to induce an abortion?

If people are really concerned about saving the lives of the unborn, then they should nip the problem before it's in the bud. This can in large part be by requiring high schools to teach the various forms of birth control. Teaching abstinence only does more harm than good, since most people don't stay that way. Info learned in high school will come in handy when a just married couple don't yet want a child.
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Old 01-31-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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This can in large part be by requiring high schools to teach the various forms of birth control.
And make it easily available, and perhaps, as a society, grow up a bit about sex. One can dream.
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