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"Update: At a press briefing on Jan. 31, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer admitted the “109" figure only referred to people who were traveling at the time the order was signed. So, in other words, both Trump’s tweet and Spicer’s original statement was false.
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The Trump White House’s figures on the scope of the travel ban are ludicrously low. The universe of people likely affected by the travel suspension is around 90,000 — not 109."
Many many more people got stuck on the other side of those flights. many were half way on their journeys.
Just because you did not see them being refused does not mean they don't exist.
Good point. The 109 number was BS, even just with the number who actually made it here. And who knows how many on the other side. And now you have people who can't leave for fear of not being allowed back in.
Airlines even had to change their flight crews because they had people from those countries working for them.
This is not a positive thing for this country. Being a world leader in innovation and leaning has been of great benefit to our country. International students alone contribute almost $27 billion to our economy each year. That's not a small amount. How many students who might have considered an education in the US will now turn to other countries for their education because they don't want to have to worry about whether their country will be the next to have visas revoked?
And what about the professionals and researchers who come here for conferences and business? We benefit from them, too, not just monetarily, but also from being the place where ideas are exchanged.
Throughout history, the places at the crossroads have been places where culture and economy have blossomed. Places that have isolated themselves have stagnated and declined. Yes, there is a risk to opening your country to others, but there are risks to closing yourself off, too.
As per government attorneys during a court hearing for two brothers who allege they were "coerced into giving up their legal resident visas..."
According to Betsy Woodruff on Twitter, "There was an audible gasp in the EDVA courtroom when govt lawyer Erez Reuveni said 100k+ visas were revoked by Trump EO"
The judge rightly described last weekend's events as "chaos."
"“It’s quite clear that not all the thought went into it that should have gone into it,” Brinkema said. “There has been chaos. . .without any kind of actual hard evidence that there is a need” to revoke visas already granted."
"Update: At a press briefing on Jan. 31, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer admitted the “109" figure only referred to people who were traveling at the time the order was signed. So, in other words, both Trump’s tweet and Spicer’s original statement was false.
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The Trump White House’s figures on the scope of the travel ban are ludicrously low. The universe of people likely affected by the travel suspension is around 90,000 — not 109."
so what you are saying is, there are 90,000 people moving back and forth between America and these 7 nations known to be hotbeds of terrorism on any given day?
and the left doesn't see that as a problem? holybagdadybomberbatman!
This is not a positive thing for this country. Being a world leader in innovation and leaning has been of great benefit to our country. International students alone contribute almost $27 billion to our economy each year. That's not a small amount. How many students who might have considered an education in the US will now turn to other countries for their education because they don't want to have to worry about whether their country will be the next to have visas revoked?
And what about the professionals and researchers who come here for conferences and business? We benefit from them, too, not just monetarily, but also from being the place where ideas are exchanged.
Throughout history, the places at the crossroads have been places where culture and economy have blossomed. Places that have isolated themselves have stagnated and declined. Yes, there is a risk to opening your country to others, but there are risks to closing yourself off, too.
interesting question....
students from 7 countries that might want to enroll in the next 120 days? because we are talking about 7 countries having a 120 hold on visa issuance.
I am sure those of you on the left are positive this 7 nation hold is going to stop the flow of all smart people coming to America for eternity.
so what you are saying is, there are 90,000 people moving back and forth between America and these 7 nations known to be hotbeds of terrorism on any given day?
and the left doesn't see that as a problem? holybagdadybomberbatman!
students from 7 countries that might want to enroll in the next 120 days? because we are talking about 7 countries having a 120 hold on visa issuance.
I am sure those of you on the left are positive this 7 nation hold is going to stop the flow of all smart people coming to America for eternity.
But this won't deter students from just those 7 countries. International student tuition is too expensive for families to take a chance on. There will be families from other countries who decide that the risk of sending their child to the US is too great, because the policy may change to include their country, too.
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