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Old 02-07-2017, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I hate to break it to you, but governments must do what is in their "national interests" at all times, or risk destruction.
I hate to break it to you, but no, they do not have to torture and murder their prisoners any more than the Nazis had to murder Jews. And nor do we have to get in bed with torturers and murderers like Trump wants to do.

 
Old 02-07-2017, 06:24 AM
 
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Make alliances with people like that???

You mean like ourselves?

Had no problem making buddy-buddy with Saddam in the 80s. Or Bin Laden in the 80s. Or Stalin in the 40s. Or Pinochet in the 70s.

Running out of ink...
Blame America when everything else fails, and why not, since Trump blamed us too.
 
Old 02-07-2017, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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I hate to break it to you, but no, they do not have to torture and murder their prisoners any more than the Nazis had to murder Jews. And nor do we have to get in bed with torturers and murderers like Trump wants to do.
And yet you decry that removal of Saddam Hussein from Iraq............
 
Old 02-07-2017, 06:27 AM
 
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So what? They know the price you pay for trying to overthrow the government. THings are different in the middle east. You either rule those animals with an iron fist, or you get ISIS to take over with public beheadings. Which to you prefer?
 
Old 02-07-2017, 06:32 AM
 
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And yet you decry that removal of Saddam Hussein from Iraq............
Would you mind quoting me?

Do you also realize there is a big difference in removing a torturer/murderer and wanting to get in bed with him like Trump does?
 
Old 02-07-2017, 06:34 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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It would be beyond foolish to make alliances with people like that.

At Least 13,000 Hanged in Mass Executions at Syrian Prison: Amnesty International - NBC News

BEIRUT — Syrian authorities have killed at least 13,000 people since the start of the 2011 uprising in mass hangings at a prison north of Damascus known to detainees as "the slaughterhouse," Amnesty International said in a report Tuesday.

The report covers the period from 2011 to 2015, when Amnesty said 20-50 people were hanged each week at Saydnaya Prison in killings authorized by senior Syrian officials, including deputies of President Bashar Assad, and carried out by military police.

Other rights groups have found evidence of massive torture leading to death in Syrian detention facilities. In a report last year, Amnesty found that more than 17,000 people have died of torture and ill-treatment
Roosevelt was allies with Stalin.
 
Old 02-07-2017, 07:04 AM
 
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It would be beyond foolish to make alliances with people like that.

At Least 13,000 Hanged in Mass Executions at Syrian Prison: Amnesty International - NBC News

BEIRUT — Syrian authorities have killed at least 13,000 people since the start of the 2011 uprising in mass hangings at a prison north of Damascus known to detainees as "the slaughterhouse," Amnesty International said in a report Tuesday.

The report covers the period from 2011 to 2015, when Amnesty said 20-50 people were hanged each week at Saydnaya Prison in killings authorized by senior Syrian officials, including deputies of President Bashar Assad, and carried out by military police.

Other rights groups have found evidence of massive torture leading to death in Syrian detention facilities. In a report last year, Amnesty found that more than 17,000 people have died of torture and ill-treatment
Foolish?

I was born and raised in the USA and baptized at the cradle in Catholicism. And all I've ever heard in the USA are the heroics of the United States in WWII. The United States was allied with Russia's Stalin during WWII. A man that had about 6 million Ukrainians starved to death. A man that in one single day, in one single town, had more people put to death than 300 years of Catholic Inquisition through THE WHOLE of Latin America.

And you've got the nerve to talk about these three. Your religion is s simply the Democratic Party. You're as blind for them as ISIS is for their brand of Sunni Islam.

The United States probably incarcerates more black people than any nation on earth, and no doutb gives the death sentence to more of its citizens than any other Western nation it is in alliance with including Canada.

The Syrian Government has been dealing with Islamic Sunni extremist that have murdered people in Syria just for being ****te. What do you get the death sentence for in the USA?
 
Old 02-07-2017, 07:05 AM
 
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Roosevelt was allies with Stalin.
And that is supposed to mean we have to embrace every murdering thug out there?
 
Old 02-07-2017, 07:07 AM
 
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Foolish?
Yes, foolish.

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Your religion is s simply the Democratic Party.
That's an interesting claim given the fact that I am not even a Democrat.

Any other assumptions you'd like to share?

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The United States probably incarcerates more black people than any nation on earth, and no doutb gives the death sentence to more of its citizens than any other Western nation it is in alliance with including Canada.
Just because Donald Trump accused for atrocities America doesn't mean everyone else has to do the same.
 
Old 02-07-2017, 07:09 AM
 
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That's an interesting claim given the fact that I am not even a Democrat.

Any other assumptions you'd like to share?
Then you must be a neo-con Republican. A Hillary Democrat and a McCain Republican are two sides of the same coin.
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