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View Poll Results: What Will The Appeals Court Do?
Votes to Reinstate the Executive Order 37 29.84%
Votes to Continue the Stay by the Seattle Court 77 62.10%
Votes to Restrict New Visitors Only 7 5.65%
Votes to Send the Stay Back to Seattle 3 2.42%
Voters: 124. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-14-2017, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Looks like Trumps wish came true, I am sure Sessions is looking forward to this. Hopefully the will get to this point and have full disclosure.


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On Monday, U.S. District Court Judge James Robart ruled to expedite the case in his courtroom.
This means the Attorney General’s Office will not have to deal with the burden of a preliminary injunction phase, which was next on the schedule. The lawsuit will head straight to trial.
Federal judge in Seattle expedites case against President Trump’s travel ban | Q13 FOX News
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Old 02-14-2017, 04:40 PM
 
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Exactly!!!

BUT

You are not the one to be able to question "So called Judge" "SnoFlake" "It is clear that you do not know much about law."

It is up to AG to file an Appeal regarding National Ban of Abortion from "So called Judge" "SnoFlake".

My guess is AG will let National Ban of Abortion stay for 4 year or even 8 years.


Art of war:
The best defense is a good offense.
Use enemy's invincible spear to attack enemy's invincible shield.
Now you get a taste of the justice if the "So called Judge" rules to ban abortion.
Simply put: no. You don't understand process, precedent, or strategy.
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Old 02-14-2017, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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The whole point of a Temporary Restraining Order (TRO) is to prevent irreparable injury before a court is able to give full & reasoned consideration to the lawfulness of the challenged action.

So-called President's MO is impulsive, unreasonable, careless, thoughtless harmful ..., in other words, he is against full & reasonable consideration on any matter because it's against his principles.

Good thing he's so incompetent.
What is careless is not enforcing our immigration laws. 11 million illegal aliens in our country is unacceptable. But, yes, attack Trump for doing something about it. Something which should have been done 20 years ago.
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Old 02-14-2017, 05:01 PM
 
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What is careless is not enforcing our immigration laws. 11 million illegal aliens in our country is unacceptable. But, yes, attack Trump for doing something about it. Something which should have been done 20 years ago.
The order covers *LEGAL* immigrants.
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Old 02-14-2017, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Slice it any way you want. written correctly the courts have no option but to stop non citizens without green cards from entering.
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Old 02-14-2017, 05:13 PM
 
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Slice it any way you want. written correctly the courts have no option but to stop non citizens without green cards from entering.
That's incorrect. Due Process must be afforded to other categories of immigrant as well--certainly to people on student and most work visas, at least. The religion questions raised by the order are substantial. And the order wasn't "written correctly"--kind of like Flynn wasn't vetted correctly.
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Old 02-14-2017, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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That's incorrect. Due Process must be afforded to other categories of immigrant as well--certainly to people on student and most work visas, at least. The religion questions raised by the order are substantial. And the order wasn't "written correctly"--kind of like Flynn wasn't vetted correctly.
Crap! Trump wasn't vetted correctly. That is becoming more obvious every day.
Looks like the alt right experiment in government, not to mention the American system of democracy, is having a serious meltdown.
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Old 02-15-2017, 01:40 PM
 
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Simply put: no. You don't understand process, precedent, or strategy.
Yes, you are right you are the last person to question "so called judge" snowflake's ruling.

Calling "so called judge" snowflake "Simply put: no. You don't understand process, precedent, or strategy." help nothing.
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Next week we will see another executive order. should be interesting how they are going to work this one.
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Old 02-17-2017, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Next week we will see another executive order. should be interesting how they are going to work this one.
Obama gave Trump two templates to use, the one for the ban on Iraqi immigrants, and the one for the ban on South Sudanese immigrants.

"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) (NEA), section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, find that the situation in and in relation to South Sudan, which has been marked by activities that threaten the peace, security, or stability of South Sudan and the surrounding region, including widespread violence and atrocities, human rights abuses, recruitment and use of child soldiers, attacks on peacekeepers, and obstruction of humanitarian operations, poses an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat. ... I hereby find that the unrestricted immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens determined to meet one or more of the criteria in section 1(a) of this order would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of such persons. Such persons shall be treated as persons covered by section 1 of Proclamation 8693 of July 24, 2011 (Suspension of Entry of Aliens Subject to United Nations Security Council Travel Bans and International Emergency Economic Powers Act Sanctions)." - Executive Order 13664 of April 3, 2014

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https://www.lexisnexis.com/legalnews...edirected=true

The full text of the original Executive Order is here (see Section 4):

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-ce...h_sudan_eo.pdf

All Trump had to do was copy this Executive Order and add 6 countries.
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