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Old 02-10-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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Once again, who exactly got a hotel room paid for?

 
Old 02-10-2017, 08:06 AM
 
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Incorrect. An emolument is also compensation for services, profits, or fees. The payment to the hotel certainly qualifies. And isn't it an interesting coincidence that Saudi Arabia was left off the list of his immigration restricted countries?
You got it.

Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8 of the Constitution.

“...And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”


Trump's promise to donate any profit his hotels make from any foreign state guests to the U.S. treasury is nothing but nonsense.

Though paying taxes would certainly be a step in the right direction, the Constitution is clear that accepting the money in the first place is illegal.

Whether it goes directly to Trump or stops off on the way at some mythical trust he may or may not have set up, it is still illegal.

Emolument refers to the payment, not the profit from those payments.

Emolument: Payment that is made for work that has been done. (Supposedly it refers to payments made to millers for grinding corn as "emolere" means "grind out.")
 
Old 02-10-2017, 08:08 AM
 
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Who had their room paid for?
 
Old 02-10-2017, 08:10 AM
 
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I hope that the courts do rule and rule this to it's ultimate conclusion. They never do that but one can hope.

Who benefits more here? Trump making a few hundred or thousands of dollars OR the Senator of a state that manufactures the machinery for the wars?

This Senator pushes for wars and then promotes business X to sell country Y billions in war machinery with the expectation that millions will come back to him in the form of campaign contributions?
Cheney's Halliburton made out like a bandit with those no-bid contracts in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Why no one went after him is a mystery to this day.
 
Old 02-10-2017, 08:15 AM
 
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Cheney's Halliburton made out like a bandit with those no-bid contracts in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Why no one went after him is a mystery to this day.
Quick question, were no bid contracts awarded to Halliburton or its subsidiaries under the Clinton administration?

After you look it up and find the answer to be yes, feel free to spin it as you like, but when only one company has the logistics in place to do the job, it might be the only option.

Of course, if we stopped these military excursions, we wouldn't have to ship plane loads of tax payer cash across the globe.
 
Old 02-10-2017, 08:26 AM
 
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Obama did have to return money. There was no impeachment.
What money was that?
 
Old 02-10-2017, 08:27 AM
 
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Exactly who had their room paid for?
 
Old 02-10-2017, 09:36 AM
 
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Incorrect. An emolument is also compensation for services, profits, or fees. The payment to the hotel certainly qualifies. And isn't it an interesting coincidence that Saudi Arabia was left off the list of his immigration restricted countries?
Wrong.


e·mol·u·ment:

a salary, fee, or profit from employment or office.


A foreign government paying for a hotel room is simply paying for service rendered, and is not employing the president.
 
Old 02-10-2017, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Exactly who had their room paid for?
It's not the person that had the room paid for, it's that Trump profited directly as it's his hotel that was paid.
 
Old 02-10-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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This weekend we have the Japanese PM golfing with trump in FL as a gift from trump. So now we have the payment
going in the other direction.
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