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Yes we do. Also, when we apply for our visa, green card or citizenship, we sign a form saying we will not break the law, harm people or get involved in criminal activities. And if we break the law then the govt has the right to deport us. So yes, we have rights as long as we adhere to the constituion & do not go around breaking laws.
It doesn't matter if you are legal or not. If you are HERE, you have certain constitutional protections. The general thinking around here is that foreigners don't have any rights in the US, which is NOT true
Wow....you guys are soooooo afraid. Please go back under your beds. The rest of us want to lead full lives, including meeting and interacting with people from all walks of life. That's how we learn. How we enjoy life.
Then how come Boston judge find it out to be not a Muslim ban? Does it mean one of them are not interpreting correctly? Ban did not mention anything about religion. It is the 9th court judges interpreting based on Trump election speech. Boston judge refused to use this for interpreting it based on religion.
Good question! I think its a matter of interpretation. Another judge in Virginia just blocked it. In the end either a better legal ban will be put into place (and that CAN be done pretty easily while avoiding the courts having any grounds to disagree), or it will go to the supreme court for adjudication.
I think the judge made a mistake in not allowing the presidents words to be used as there is case law allowing it. But at a judge level its more likely to see mistakes made-thats why the 3 person judgement was so much more important. (and dont fall for that 80% overturn rate nonsense-it misses the fact that 99.99% or so never get heard at a higher level.)
Trump could have a new one in place in minutes that avoided the issues of the first one completely. If he cared about security like he says he would have done that, then continued the legal challenge of the first one.
There's this very misunderstood part of our laws that says only US citizens enjoy the rights and privileges of the Constitution. This is NOT true, because all foreigners in the US enjoy one of the most important rights we have as Americans, due process of law. All aliens have due process of law, no one can use or aabuse them and throw away the key just because they are not US citizens. They may not have ALL constitutional rights, but they do have at least some of them.
Edit: This is NOT only within the context of Trump's EO to bar citizens of certain countries from entering the US
The confusion lies with the liberals who think foreigners have a right to enter US.
Foreigners who are here illegally cannot vote, own firearm or live here. Yes, all residents, legal or legally, enjoy the due process.
However, foreigners outside of US jurisdiction do not have any constitutional right.
The confusion lies with the liberals who think foreigners have a right to enter US.
Foreigners who are here illegally cannot vote, own firearm or live here. Yes, all residents, legal or legally, enjoy the due process.
However, foreigners outside of US jurisdiction do not have any constitutional right.
That's where you are wrong as well. Illegals DO enjoy due process of law. This is why when Ice does raids, they don't just put them on a bus and drive them over the order. "Removal proceedings" involve the courts, and illegals can have an attorney appointed to represent them if they cannot afford one. So, yes there are certain rights that ALL PEOPLE have when they are in the US, regardless of their status, and due process is one of them. If an illegal commits a crime and gets arrested, he or she enjoys the same rights American criminals do when being processed through the criminal justice system
That's where you are wrong as well. Illegals DO enjoy due process of law. This is why when Ice does raids, they don't just put them on a bus and drive them over the order. "Removal proceedings" involve the courts, and illegals can have an attorney appointed to represent them if they cannot afford one. So, yes there are certain rights that ALL PEOPLE have when they are in the US, regardless of their status, and due process is one of them. If an illegal commits a crime and gets arrested, he or she enjoys the same rights American criminals do when being processed through the criminal justice system
There's this very misunderstood part of our laws that says only US citizens enjoy the rights and privileges of the Constitution. This is NOT true, because all foreigners in the US enjoy one of the most important rights we have as Americans, due process of law. All aliens have due process of law, no one can use or aabuse them and throw away the key just because they are not US citizens. They may not have ALL constitutional rights, but they do have at least some of them.
Edit: This is NOT only within the context of Trump's EO to bar citizens of certain countries from entering the US
Really? Which ones and where in the Constitution does it say so?
There's this very misunderstood part of our laws that says only US citizens enjoy the rights and privileges of the Constitution. This is NOT true, because all foreigners in the US enjoy one of the most important rights we have as Americans, due process of law. All aliens have due process of law, no one can use or aabuse them and throw away the key just because they are not US citizens. They may not have ALL constitutional rights, but they do have at least some of them.
Edit: This is NOT only within the context of Trump's EO to bar citizens of certain countries from entering the US
Illegal aliens don't have right other than human rights and right to be deported.
They shouldn't be treated unfair. But fair is that they have to go. Ack to where they belong or don't feel they belong but apply from there to come here in a legal way. On top of that many illegals mail or wire money to their home country which should be forbidden as they first should pay taxes, medical bills, insurance etc.
When we came here and got the money from abroad over here to buy our home we had to disclose and were checked if the money was legal and not from illegal funds. That should also be the other way around.
If people didn't use labels and generalities like "the liberals all think" it would be easier to have a civil discussion on this forum.
The Federal Judge in Washington State is not "a liberal." He's been a life-long Republican who was appointed by Bush and is known by his peers as a conservative, straight shooter. I suppose there are many who think fighting for the poor and disadvantaged is something only liberals do.
[URL="http://www.king5.com/news/politics/meet-james-robart-the-judge-who-halted-trumps-immigration-ban/398770216"]Meet James Robart, the judge who halted Trump's immigration ban
[/URL] "Robart, who Trump demeaned as a “so-called judge,” was appointed to the bench by President George W. Bush in 2004 after receiving unanimous support from the U.S. Senate."
"Former U.S. Attorney Mike McKay, who co-chairs the bi-partisan committee tasked with recommending potential appointees, calls Judge Robart "a mainstream jurist, even-tempered, and very respectful of all parties."
"McKay, a Republican himself, also notes Judge Robart was an active, moderate Republican who also donated to GOP candidates before taking the bench."
"Longtime friend and former law partner of Robart, Stephen C. Smith describes him as "a Reagan conservative."
Really? Which ones and where in the Constitution does it say so?
Show me the part of the Constitution where it says only US citizens have rights.
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Originally Posted by bentlebee
Illegal aliens don't have right other than human rights and right to be deported.
They shouldn't be treated unfair. But fair is that they have to go. Ack to where they belong or don't feel they belong but apply from there to come here in a legal way. On top of that many illegals mail or wire money to their home country which should be forbidden as they first should pay taxes, medical bills, insurance etc.
When we came here and got the money from abroad over here to buy our home we had to disclose and were checked if the money was legal and not from illegal funds. That should also be the other way around.
They also have other certain rights like due process of law, illegal search and seizure, and yes even free speech.
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