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Old 02-15-2017, 07:27 AM
 
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We are seeing a very dangerous precedent set.

We are seeing leaks coming from the intelligence community, releasing information about private communications of the incoming administration to the media.
It was leaked by the Obama White House.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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What is Bannon's role in all this? His name has been strangely missing for the last 24 hours or so. I think that may be about to change.
The Grand Wizzard never gets his hands dirty.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It was leaked by the Obama White House.
No, it was not. Please stop making stuff up.

The Trump WH is a sieve.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:32 AM
 
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The bully has dug his own grave. He bullied the media so they write bad stuff about him. He likened the CIA to Nazis so that probably alienated them, don't you think? It may have worked in business, bullying, scaring people, mouthing off at people--but politics is a different game.

No, as a Democrat, I don't like these potentially dangerous leaks. But if Trump had never happened and hadn't appointed idiots and the whole crowd of them hadn't been bent on making deals, money, and not caring about the country, this wouldn't even be happening. Trump is not qualified and does not know what he is doing! And now all H*** is breaking loose.
You seriously didn't see any of this in the Obama administration? Leaks were a big part of the Obama administration, yet, most thought President Obama was doing a great job, now some of you seem worried.


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The Grand Wizzard never gets his hands dirty.
We saw this with President Obama, yet, the people saw he and Hillary both had more than dirty hands!
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:34 AM
 
Location: United States
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YEs all of a sudden Trump isn't happing with FBI and NSA -- didn't seem to mind them when they were interfering with the election.
When did they interfere with the election?

The FBI could've recommended indictment of Hillary for espionage, and the NSA could've released all of Hillary's deleted emails, both the FBI, and NSA choose not to take action against Hillary.

That's right, there were no leaks to the media of Hillary's emails by the intelligence agencies, they were protecting her.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:37 AM
 
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You wish...

The hypocracy of the GOP and Trump supporters is sickening...

Reverse the characters...
Instead of Trump imagine Clinton...
Have any of her aides getting/making phone calls to Russian INTELLIGENCE officers during the campaign and after the election...
Have her NSA head have phone conversations w/Russian ambassador and lie about the content to the VP of the United States and the VP lies to the public on national television more than once
Clinton knows the VP is lying to,protect the NSA head and does not tell the VP but protects the NSA head
Clinton herself comes out during the campaign and as president complementing Putin, saying Russia is a moral equal of the US because our country has engaged in nefarious activities just as Russia has...

The GOP would ERRUPT in outrage...impeachment would already be discussed...
Whole lot of assumptions you've got going on there. Not one shred of evidence to most of them, not even a leak to back most of them up.

Presumably, if there is an investigation ongoing which is the only thing reported by the media that I believe, we or Congress will hear from Comey when its done. Until then, as far as I'm concerned this is all much ado about nothing.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:37 AM
 
Location: United States
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It was leaked by the Obama White House.
Yes, we have never seen an outgoing administration openly work to undermine an incoming administration like this before.

The democrats are going to be very upset when it happens to the next democrat that wins election.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:39 AM
 
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When did they interfere with the election?

The FBI could've recommended indictment of Hillary for espionage, and the NSA could've released all of Hillary's deleted emails, both the FBI, and NSA choose not to take action against Hillary.

That's right, there were no leaks to the media of Hillary's emails by the intelligence agencies, they were protecting her.
Exactly, all the security agencies have said that despite the Russians attempts to interfere with the election, they did not.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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Translation: I only like leaks when they hurt Democrats! Assange, hold me!

A dangerous precedent WAS set (or "president", as Dump would say) but that occurred before the election, when Candidate Dump went on national television and practically begged Russia to keep hacking away at the DNC and Clinton.

One of the the more appalling moments in an appalling campaign, and right-wing "patriots" didn't give one solid **** about it. In fact, they cheered him on. Now they want to cry about leaks? Don't make me laugh.
x1000. So freaking predictable. When Assange says something, when Comey says something, that's perfectly okay. Now the shoe is on the other foot. Uneasy is the head that wears the crown.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Florida
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We are seeing a very dangerous precedent set.

We are seeing leaks coming from the intelligence community, releasing information about private communications of the incoming administration to the media.

At this point, there is no clear indication that Flynn violated the law with is contact of the Russian ambassador.

If Flynn violated the law, then proscute Flynn, you do not illegally leak information to the media.

The door has been opened, that the outgoing administration is free to leak information about the incoming administration to undermine them.

I know you democrats will dismiss this, that's fine, just remember that the precedent has been set, using the intelligence agencies to collect, and leak information from the incoming administration to undermine, and attack them is now fair game.

You democrats didn't like the Biden rule used against you, you are really not going to like having the intelligence agencies used to actively working to undermine an incoming democratic president.

This is an incredibly dangerous precedent, one that is not in the best interest of the country.
You are trying to blame it on Obama, which is fairly naive. Trump publicly disrespected the intelligence community and even called them nazis, and now he wonders why he has so many enemies. He is paying the price for his own stupidity, and nothing else. The intelligence community does not belong to any particular admin, they are career people, who work for any admin, but as we are seeing, even they expect some respect.

Going on warpath with them was a HUGE error from Trump's part.
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