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Old 02-15-2017, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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I would estimate around 75% of what comes out of the MSM.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:33 PM
 
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as long as you're seeing it, or hearing it for the first time, it's real news.


then use your best judgment to either sing it from the roof tops or decry it as fake.
So, to reduce what you're saying down to a more general point, truth is mostly subjective?
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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That's not fake news, that's propaganda.
CNN qualifies on both


I would say politifact has become deflection central and the propaganda machine for the left.

For instance in reference to Teddy "manslaughter" Kennedy's collusion with the USSR:

Kengor is the author of several books on Reagan, including “The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism,” which includes a copy of the entire 1983 KGB document.

In his book, Kengor points out that Tunney, now 82, acknowledged making 15 separate trips to the Soviet Union. The California Democrat served as an emissary not just for Kennedy but for other U.S. senators.

It’s not clear how many, but the KGB chief’s 1983 letter to Andropov says Kennedy suggested the Soviet leader meet with Sen. Mark Hatfield, an Oregon Republican who joined with Kennedy in supporting a freeze on nuclear weapons. Hatfield died in 2011.

The KGB document that blew the lid off Kennedy’s overtures to the Soviets came to light in the early 1990s. Boris Yeltsin, the first president of the Russian Federation after the Soviet Union disintegrated in part because of Reagan’s economic and defense policies, opened the Kremlin archives.
Ted Kennedy


According to Politifact's "Russian sources" this is all false.
Limbaugh: Ted Kennedy undercut Reagan with back-door line to Soviets | PunditFact

But then according to Politifact Limbaugh is never right, even when he is.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:37 PM
 
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This is a very good article that explains what Fake News is and why it proliferates.
It is fiction, disguised as news, that is made up in order to generate clicks to make money.
If you are unsure if your favorite news source is real or fake, ask your local public Librarian. It's their job to know the difference.

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/veles-...nia-fake-news/
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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There's the 50 Fox lies clip. All fact checked out for your viewing pleasure.

The fact-checks behind 'The Daily Show's' 50 Fox news 'lies' | PolitiFact
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:45 PM
 
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Title speaks for itself. What exactly is fake news?

And if it's not clear, I'm not looking for examples. I don't want a bunch of people saying "Breitbart" or "CNN." I'm asking for an explanation for what fake news is. What it looks like. How it's done. Maybe why it's done. The reason I ask is because I see it thrown around and it simply seems like it's just a blanket term for that which you do not personally agree with.

It may also be useful to have this follow up question: what is "real" news, and how is it different from fake news?
To me it's a hypothetical or narrative that is spun, in which wishful concrete conclusions are then drawn.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:52 PM
 
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Here is a classic example of faking the news;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpBfjTrM7wI
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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There's the 50 Fox lies clip. All fact checked out for your viewing pleasure.

The fact-checks behind 'The Daily Show's' 50 Fox news 'lies' | PolitiFact
LOVE THIS ONE:
6. "Look at the debt that has been accumulated in the last two years. It's more debt under this president than all those other presidents combined."
Sarah Palin, May 31, 2011
FALSE

...which is now TRUE




It's not hard to find 50 lies from any news source. Let's be honest, MSNBC and CNN have long surpassed 50 lies on this administration and it's not a month into it.
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Old 02-15-2017, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Fake news is a completely fabricated story, published by a non journalist or media outlet- picked up and shared via social media.
It's presented as though it is credible journalism, yet is an article written by someone whose intention is to just generate traffic to their site to make money.

In contrast, an article that doesn't support your political party, or doesn't necessarily name sources is NOT fake news.
Great explanation. Blogs and websites with no actual journalistic background are the biggest culprits.
Basically, "real news" is beholden to the truth and will print a correction or retraction when they are wrong (or state it on the air), fake news will not. Fake news will print or broadcast a very apparent untruth, and be mum when that claim is debunked.
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Old 02-15-2017, 04:50 PM
 
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Fake news was a term coined by the MSM and federal government to quell stories that alternate news sources or individuals reported that either were not true , partly true, or true but not what they wanted the people to hear.
The problem was that the MSM and the government were even more guilty of presenting news that was not true, so it blew up in their faces. Now with the increased scrutiny they've invited on themselves because of it, they want the term abandoned.
Fake news, fake science, fake government.
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