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Old 02-17-2017, 01:45 PM
 
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It'd be a smart strategy: market a far-right economic policy (exploitation of cheap foreign labor) as liberal social policy.

It's been working well for corporate America since the 1990s. The average American worker gets the shaft. Including white collar workers.
Yep, it's almost sad how the corporations have managed to move jobs to Mexico while on-shoring cheap labor (illegal immigration). Meanwhile US blue collar wages have stagnated, unions have been decimated etc. Then when people starting complaining about this....their entire complaint has been written off as being just racism.
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:11 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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I'll wait to send GE a bouquet of roses until we know they're paying equal wages for equal work.
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:38 PM
 
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I'll wait to send GE a bouquet of roses until we know they're paying equal wages for equal work.
Yeah, this is the same GE that off-shored call-centers, manufacturing...pretty much everything that they could for years. Then when overseas costs increased such that there wasn't a big benefit to it anymore they turned around and lobbied the politicians for big tax incentives to move the jobs BACK to the US.
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Detroit, Michigan
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I wrote a paper on women in the STEM fields a couple of years ago, so the information may have changed, but these fields have the smallest wage gap between men and women. Now, I've read quite a lot recently about how this gap is a myth in the wake of the Audi Super Bowl ad, but this is what I found. My brother is an engineer and makes good money, and it's definitely male-dominated. If I have a daughter, I would encourage (not force) her to pursue STEM.
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:53 PM
 
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Does this mean they will be turning away perfectly good candidates simply because they don't have the right "equipment" down there?
That's what it sounds like.
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:55 PM
 
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I wrote a paper on women in the STEM fields a couple of years ago, so the information may have changed, but these fields have the smallest wage gap between men and women. Now, I've read quite a lot recently about how this gap is a myth in the wake of the Audi Super Bowl ad, but this is what I found. My brother is an engineer and makes good money, and it's definitely male-dominated. If I have a daughter, I would encourage (not force) her to pursue STEM.
And that is the simple point. Encourage them to look at fields that they otherwise probably would never consider (for a variety of reasons, but likely due to a lack of good female role models in these fields and because of societal stereotypes on "male" and "female" professions).

You don't force them to do anything - you provide all opportunities, and hopefully they choose something that is fulfilling to them.

I think you need to start young with these kind of things, too - by high school and college it's probably too late. Middle school is probably a good time (I remember being super excited about my science fair project in 7th grade...more stuff around that age!).

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Old 02-17-2017, 04:56 PM
 
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The best-qualified person should get the job regardless of race or gender. This should be done through testing and the ability to pass the tests.
and companies that follow your guide are doomed to fail..

Women bring a lot to the table that men just don't bring often enough.

I see women working in sectors where they were no welcome just 10 or 20 years ago and they change them for the better. Cooperation , collaboration is the future. the companies winning are the ones ignoring your advice.
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:57 PM
 
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I say this to everyone who says this. Why only STEM? Why not encourage girls to go into other male dominated jobs?
When are we going to encourage men to go into nursing and med tech fields so as to correct the huge gender imbalance there, an imbalance that impacts men with religious based or other modesty issues that are forced to accept intimate care from women or forego care altogether?
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:59 PM
 
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When are we going to encourage men to go into nursing and med tech fields so as to correct the huge gender imbalance there, an imbalance that impacts men with religious based or other modesty issues that are forced to accept intimate care from women or forego care altogether?
We should do those things, you're correct! There's no reason there should be a stigma for a man to become a nurse or a med tech.
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Old 02-17-2017, 05:07 PM
 
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We should do those things, you're correct! There's no reason there should be a stigma for a man to become a nurse or a med tech.
I agree, yet there is a bias against hiring men in many medical settings. Also, whereas there are many programs encouraging girls to go into STEM fields, you don't find comparable programs encouraging boys to pursue nursing and med tech fields.
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