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Old 02-18-2017, 03:07 PM
 
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GE to Employ 20,000 Women in Bid to End

Good idea or should people stop worrying about how many of a certain race or gender is in a certain field?
Time to sell GE stock short.
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:08 PM
 
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That doesn't prove inherent differences in capability in the genders to perform STEM. It's complicated and there are many reasons that lead to the gender imbalance, and there is no single simple solution.
It's going to be awfully hard to find a solution when there isn't even a problem.
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I don't see how they fulfill a 50:50 goal without a drastic change in the amount of women going into those fields. The only other way to achieve that would be to hire less qualified women over men, there is simply not enough women that currently take that career path.
The US is graduating about 300,000 STEM people per year. So lets say that just 25% are women, then that means that 75k new grads every year. That looks like a pretty good number of options to me. And entry level means people within their 1st 3-4 years of work, so that gives them a pool of 225-300k people to pull from.

Data check: U.S. producing more STEM graduates even without proposed initiatives | Science | AAAS
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Are you kidding me?
Look how many men are in engineering/mechanical field, physics labs/NASA research centers and the rest. Compare men/women ratio in scientific circles when it comes to math/science - do you think it's all about "encouragement?"
If yes, then explain to me pls how do you think these few women made it there, in spite of all the *discouragement?*
Why don't you watch or read Hidden Figures. Women didn't get access to most of the jobs!
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:13 PM
 
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The lack of available women to fill these roles will mean that many unqualified women will end up being hired. This will lead to poor morale for the men working at GE and many will find jobs elsewhere. GE will fail as a company.
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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While great for women, would you really want to be part of a group that was picked because you're a woman and not your talent?

I work in an incredibly male dominated field as well, but that's changing because more women are going to school. That's the better approach.
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:25 PM
 
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This is ridiculous. Diversifying a workforce is not discrimination.

liberals ideas of quotas in jobs is dumb. End of story
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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From someone who works in STEM, the bigger problem is there's not enough women applying.
When I was in college we had no women in my graduating class. The classes ahead and behind us had like 1 or 2.
Right now if you're a female engineer, the sky's the limit. Everybody wants to boost their percentage of female engineers. I've ever never seen a female engineer not get hired and promotions happen very quickly.
Are you really getting most of your candidates from applications? Or do you recruit heavily from the schools the founders went to, get employee referrals and so on. The game is rigged from the start by using a limited pool.

Where are you recruiting from? So let's say you only recruit from your school - and it only graduates male engineers. What about recruiting from schools that have more female engineers.

The 13 Most Important STEM Colleges For Women

Good schools like Cornell, UC Davis, Clemson, John Hopkins, Washington U, Rice, Duke, and Michigan graduate more female engineers. Upwards of 50% women....so how hard would it be to recruit from a broader pool of schools?
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:26 PM
 
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First of all, did you actually read the paper? Frankly, I think what you are attempting to push is as bad for men as it is women. If men are inherently better at STEM than women, and many women don't find their STEM fields to be particularly challenging, what does that make of men not in STEM? Automatic dip sticks? Come on.

nobody says they are incapable of doing it. It is just that they are not interested. And who cares if they are or not? Fields like construction and road maintenance are male dominated as well. Do we need more women in those jobs?
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:32 PM
 
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Friend of ours works as an EMT. She got assigned to a fire house 2 months ago. First thing she heard when she got in from the chief was:

"Just so you know, we don't want you here. We don't believe you can do the job properly and we'll be looking for any reason to get rid of you"

The only reason this was told to her was because she was a female. She has two choices, try and record it, get in all kinds of trouble since this is a 2 party consent state, deal with the fallout of trying to turn in the good old boy. Stay quiet and work her job because there is a 1500 person waiting list to get another.

There are still plenty of men's clubs in society. There is still plenty of discrimination based on sex and race. Just because you haven't seen it or experienced it, doesn't mean others don't suffer from it.

Unfortunately people have small minds and until that changes then attempting to get woman treated equally is a good thing. Exposing girls to something other than princess stories and slumber parties is also a good thing. Heaven forbid we break out of the good old boy mold or 1950's style female parenting.

Woman may never be playing NFL football, however there is no reason what so ever for them to be under represented in science, math, politics etc other than "get your a$$ in the kitchen and make me a pie"
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