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Anywhere from half to three-quarters of some 1.6 million field workers in the country are thought to be illegal immigrants. Yet only 35,000 foreigners applied for seasonal agriculture visas last year even though there is no limit on the number of H-2A visas that could be issued. U.S. employers must initiate that process.Businesses, immigrants urge limits on changes - News - Wilmington Star News - Wilmington, NC
Which is why there should be NO SUCH THING as an ILLEGAL farm worker!
The farmers don't want to go through the process because they have to provide shelter, healthcare, etc. for the farm workers.
They skirt the rules because they want to EXPLOIT the laborers. Neo-slavery. Meanwhile, the workers have no recourse because they are scared of being deported.
To support the status quo and cry about "food rotting in the fields" is to support slavery and exploitation.
Just covering some topics in this thread, a Mexican grain embargo is going to hit Iowa and especially Nebraska very hard, as these states are the most dependent on corn exports. I remember what happened when Carter imposed a grain embargo in 1980, and it didn't work out well for us. Concerning NAFTA, immigration policy, and the border fence, I think these Trump policies are correct, and need to be acted upon, but he needs to lose the bravado in the way he deals with our trading partners. We don't want them getting so ticked off that they band together and set about destroying the American economy with whatever revenge seeking ideas they might be able to come up with.
The wall is going to slow down the flow of illegals and drugs into our country, it is a good idea. It may reduce the flow by as much as 80%. This wall will bring some peace of mind to the landowners that live along the border, but I really don't think Trump should expect Mexico to pay for it directly, and state so publicly. It's our burden to protect the border, and the money we save from welfare payments, the higher wages that will be gained for low end jobs, the reduction of social costs from crime and heroin overdoses, this will more than pay for the wall within a very short period of time.
The deportations should begin with the ones that have criminal records and those on welfare, because they are the ones that will never self-deport. Then you go after the employers so they have to fire their slaves and hire Americans, especially the elites that can afford to hire and pay fair wages to Americans for things like housekeeping, nanny, gardener, ect ect. California is full of these pukes and we need to ween them off the plantation labor and put it right. Americans may not do these jobs as well as illegals....duh, they didn't pick cotton as fast after slavery ended, but we adjusted. Some jobs are so bad that people in a first world economy will not do them, we need to sort that out because you can damage the economy by deporting too many as well. I would bet at least half of them could be deported and replaced with American workers, much more in a state like California, probably 80% there.
I think the Central Americans should not be dumped in Mexico as they will be ripped off and abused during their journey back. They should be given a boat ride from the gulf coast to their home country, on a freight barge.
Once the jobs open up that the illegals are doing, start kicking Americans off welfare in the locations these jobs become available. Get rid of the stupid drug testing requirements for marijuana, but keep testing for all the other drugs. Pot is different in the way it stays in the body for months, and I always thought it was horse**** in the way they go after these people and discriminate against them for being a weekend toker. Stop that crap and you probably pick up 50 million Americans willing to get a job, and/or willing to get a better job than the one they have.
Only 2% of illegals are picking crops and for those jobs there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign workers. It's not a career job for Americans (especially if they live in urban areas) and is only seasonal work. All other blue-collared jobs Americans have always done for a fair wage until millions of cheap illegals flooded our border.
Please provide a link that Trump can't find American workers for a fair wage.
Trump will hire foreign workers to staff Mar-a-Lago this winter
"It's very, very hard to get people," Trump said when questioned about it at a March presidential debate.
Mexico does not have the economic vitality to put to productive use the repatriated undocumented immigrants in the U.S. If a large number are returned it will be very disruptive to Mexico, internally. Mexico is much better off receiving the dollars sent back by their citizens and do not have to bare any of the associated cost.
Sure, they do not support Trump's stance or plans. It could mean the fall of their government.
Mexico does not have the economic vitality to put to productive use the repatriated undocumented immigrants in the U.S. If a large number are returned it will be very disruptive to Mexico, internally. Mexico is much better off receiving the dollars sent back by their citizens and do not have to bare any of the associated cost.
Sure, they do not support Trump's stance or plans. It could mean the fall of their government.
Maybe , but it's not our problem right ?
They could of done the right thing but they chose to be corrupt .
Mexico does not have the economic vitality to put to productive use the repatriated undocumented immigrants in the U.S. If a large number are returned it will be very disruptive to Mexico, internally. Mexico is much better off receiving the dollars sent back by their citizens and do not have to bare any of the associated cost.
Sure, they do not support Trump's stance or plans. It could mean the fall of their government.
Cry me a river. They didn't care about the negative impact their citizens here illegally were and are on our own citizens. They should never had counted on us a release valve for their own failed policies.
Cry me a river. They didn't care about the negative impact their citizens here illegally were and are on our own citizens. They should never had counted on us a release valve for their own failed policies.
Mexico does not have the economic vitality to put to productive use the repatriated undocumented immigrants in the U.S. If a large number are returned it will be very disruptive to Mexico, internally. Mexico is much better off receiving the dollars sent back by their citizens and do not have to bare any of the associated cost.
Sure, they do not support Trump's stance or plans. It could mean the fall of their government.
Well, I guess that they will have to start getting creative with careers, no? Mexico kinda reminds me of a petulant child.....not wanting to find ways to deal with their shortage of work. This is not the fault of the citizens, but the government. Start training some of their returning criminals in drug enforcement work....you know...the ex-criminal shares the criminal mind with the Perp thing...otherwise build jails and house them...work for the builders and the jailers alike.
Clean the country up and more tourism, retirement communities and businesses will come into the country...but it's going to take time and plenty of work...well, no time like the present. You must build respect and reputation before the money will come.....
And provide social assistance/ programs to their own citizens, don't expect us to do it. No other country does it, why should we...and if they can find another country providing bennies to illegal immigrants, GO THERE!
We have paid our dues and helped out the cheap labor via our tax dollars...now Mexico and the companies who gain from this cheaper labor can carry the load from here....the middle class is going into extinction ...the poor play little in taxes( rightfully so) and the extreme elites and large corporations can shelter their funds and keep their tax rate low.
Sorry the goose that laid the golden eggs is broke...get creative and start providing opportunity for your own citizens, Mexico
I don't see it that way. They'll just have to pull up their bootstraps and accept the fact that we aren't going to be their doormat anymore. Our priority should be our own citizens not theirs. In the long run we will have done the right thing and we will be stronger and more respected for it.
I don't see it that way. They'll just have to pull up their bootstraps and accept the fact that we aren't going to be their doormat anymore. Our priority should be our own citizens not theirs. In the long run we will have done the right thing and we will be stronger and more respected for it.
It doesn't collapse in a vacuum it spreads. That is our problem. If you think dysfunctional Mexico is a problem now, collapsed Mexico would be a whole new game.
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