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Before Obamacare was passed, there had never been any kind of national government program put in place to run the nation's health insurance, mandate who pays how much, dictate how much doctors get paid etc.
When Ocare was imposed, many people were angered, and stated they did not need the govt telling them what insurance to buy. And they especially did not need the govt Forcing them to buy insurance if they didn't feel they need it. And they objected hugely to the various "features" of the plans offered, the high premiums, and even-higher deductibles that made the plans even more expensive to use at all
Fast forward to 2017. Now there are finally enough Republicans to do whatever they want with Obamacare.
But apparently a great transformation has taken place. Instead of debating whether we should go back to free-market solutions, that option is apparently not even being considered by ANYONE in Congress, or the White House. Even most American people don't seem interested. Despite the fact that that "option" was the only way it was done, from the nation's founding all the way up to 2010.
Instead of the free-market option (aka "letting the people decide and take their own responsibility"), the only thing heard in Congress, the Bully Pulpit, in Town Halls, and anywhere else, is:
"What big-government health care program should replace the Obamacare big-government health care program?"
This is an astounding victory for the big-govt liberals. They have succeeded. They have crossed the finish line, taken home the roses, slid into home plate.
The idea that individual citizens or families or etc. should look through the offerings of various insurance companies, and decide (a) Do they need insurance? (b) Should they get a pays-for-everything Cadillac plan with a high price tag, or a pay-for-only-big-things "Major Medical" plan with a much lower price tag. or something in between? ....has apparently been discarded by most Americans, for reasons unknown.
What has caused this major revolution among the American populace?
Did it have anything to do with the long, gradual erosion of our freedoms to make these choices?
(a) Government deciding to make health plans obtained thru your employer, tax-deductible as far back as the 1930s and 40s;
(b) Government forcing hospitals to provide service even to people who cannot pay, supplanting any and all charitable efforts;
(c) Government usurping so many such decisions that people no longer had to research and decide for themselves what company to go with (if any), but simply had to obey and select from the offerings allowed by government.
Is American initiative, inventiveness, and personal responsibility well and truly gone? Must we now give up any responsibility, and simply do what Big Brother tells us?
Can you name some sources for the basis of your thread? I realize that not all Republicans are on board with replacing the (Un)Affordable Care Act, but let's not jump to conclusions on any resolutions. Speaker Ryan said that a plan would be decided in a few months. But if you think people want government-run anything, then you've jumped to the wrong conclusion. Liberals haven't won anything.
Can you name some sources for the basis of your thread? I realize that not all Republicans are on board with replacing the (Un)Affordable Care Act, but let's not jump to conclusions on any resolutions. Speaker Ryan said that a plan would be decided in a few months. But if you think people want government-run anything, then you've jumped to the wrong conclusion. Liberals haven't won anything.
Simply the complete absence in any debate I've seen (and I've seen quite a few), of any suggestion that government get its nose out of insurance and let the people pick their own, and bear the responsibility for their choices.
If there have been any such suggestions, I will hear them gladly.
This should be no suprise. The GOP wants its own version of meddling in healthcare.
They were only half interested in repeal while Obama was in the big chair.
Simply the complete absence in any debate I've seen (and I've seen quite a few), of any suggestion that government get its nose out of insurance and let the people pick their own, and bear the responsibility for their choices.
If there have been any such suggestions, I will hear them gladly.
Simply put, there really are no "free market" solutions for many aspects of healthcare. The genie is out of the bottle on the notion of denying coverage for pre-existing conditions and general healthcare for older Americans. Left to their own, private insurance will do what they do best. Maximize revenue and minimize risk.
Simply put, there really are no "free market" solutions for many aspects of healthcare. The genie is out of the bottle on the notion of denying coverage for pre-existing conditions and general healthcare for older Americans. Left to their own, private insurance will do what they do best. Maximize revenue and minimize risk.
These things, those that actually happened, have been the case of decades. Centuries, in fact. And we have never seen fit to enact a ponderous, one-size fits all big-govt program in response. If anything, the abject failure that is Obamacare lends credence to the idea that such programs, conceived and administered by Government, are far worse than anything the free market can offer.
Is American initiative, inventiveness, and personal responsibility well and truly gone? Must we now give up any responsibility, and simply do what Big Brother tells us?
Oh please. Will you stop with the nonsense. nobody FORCES you to buy ACA or any other exact brand. You are free to buy private coverage and never even consider the government plan.
There are lots of healthcare providers in every single state, county etc. You can buy a plan anytime .
when you here about there being only one or none they are talking about he heathcare exchange. not the entire market. Did you think your employer was buying from ACA???? most don't even consider it.
Alabama has only one provider for ACA... but there are dozens of others. nobody is forcing you to do anything other than be covered....
“It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it.”
Oh please. Will you stop with the nonsense. nobody FORCES you to buy ACA or any other exact brand. You are free to buy private coverage and never even consider the government plan.
There are lots of healthcare providers in every single state, county etc. You can buy a plan anytime .
when you here about there being only one or none they are talking about he heathcare exchange. not the entire market. Did you think your employer was buying from ACA???? most don't even consider it.
Alabama has only one provider for ACA... but there are dozens of others. nobody is forcing you to do anything other than be covered....
If our national house was flooded with 12 feet of raw sewage, should we be saying silly things like, "We can't get rid of the sewage! What would take it's place? Before we get rid of it, we've got to have a substitute for this 12 feet of raw sewage that we're drowning in!"
Why, no. Of course not. Don't be ridiculous.
And yet...that's what some of our lesser lights are saying about Obamacare, for some reason.
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