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Old 02-27-2017, 05:15 AM
 
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This guy has no idea what a hornet's nest he's stepped into. The man made GW believers are going to crucify him.

Author's alternative theory of climate change spurs discussion - Elgin Courier-News

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Old 02-27-2017, 05:21 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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No idea as I am only middling on physics and the GW models have a dizzying array of variables in them but.

Water vapor does hold MUCH more heat than CO2.
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Old 02-27-2017, 05:26 AM
 
Location: JobHuntingHacker.com
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Does that make you feel better? Need some play dough? Do you need a safe place from all the violent, negative scientists with their fake science?
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Old 02-27-2017, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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This guy has no idea what a hornet's nest he's stepped into. The man made GW believers are going to crucify him.

Author's alternative theory of climate change spurs discussion - Elgin Courier-News
You'll believe anything.
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Old 02-27-2017, 05:37 AM
 
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You'll believe anything.
Sure I do...I guess thats what happens when you live in liberal state like massachusetts for so many years..what can i say..
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Old 02-27-2017, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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I do not agree however the increased amounts of water vapor are the result of GW. So the issue is now which came first.

Like the old question, "what came first the chicken or the egg".
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Old 02-27-2017, 05:59 AM
 
Location: DC
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This is such a tired old canard. Of course water vapor is a critical factor in the greenhouse effect. Water vapor is a function of temperature -- the hotter it is the more water vapor there is. Water vapor is therefore not an independent variable, it is actually a source of positive feedback amplifying the effect of GHGs like CO2. The impact of water vapor is already included in all the models.

Remember It's not necessarily new just because it's news to you
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Old 02-27-2017, 06:09 AM
 
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This is such a tired old canard. Of course water vapor is a critical factor in the greenhouse effect. Water vapor is a function of temperature -- the hotter it is the more water vapor there is. Water vapor is therefore not an independent variable, it is actually a source of positive feedback amplifying the effect of GHGs like CO2. The impact of water vapor is already included in all the models.

Remember It's not necessarily new just because it's news to you
Is there CO2 in the oceans and ice?

What happens to CO2 trapped in water and ice when you warm them up?


https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...d-of-ice-ages/
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Old 02-27-2017, 06:52 AM
 
Location: USA
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Yes, water vapor is an important greenhouse gas.

You admit that an increase in greenhouse gasses should raise the earth's average surface temperature.

Good. You're making progress.
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Old 02-27-2017, 06:58 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Bunch of carbon Docs going to flip burgers at McDs.


Big business edu selling carbon based research pHD programs to boost bottom line.


Hey, there's to much carbon on that burger, left it on the griddle too long... well maybe there is hope for pHDs and their carbon expertise?
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