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Old 03-12-2017, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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His penalty for posting falsehoods would be the same as yours for posting falsehoods.
He's supposedly the President of the US. Doesn't he owe us some honesty? Is it illegal for him to lie to the American people? If not illegal, isn't it unethical? Impeachable? They impeached Clinton for lying, why shouldn't they impeach the current president for lying?

 
Old 03-12-2017, 06:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by dothetwist
If President Bonkers' tweets were lies, does he just get away with it?
Everything he tweets ARE LIES and nothing has happend yet!!!
 
Old 03-12-2017, 07:04 AM
 
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Probably re-election just like the last three liars in chief.
 
Old 03-12-2017, 07:19 AM
 
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Originally Posted by dothetwist View Post
He's supposedly the President of the US. Doesn't he owe us some honesty? Is it illegal for him to lie to the American people? If not illegal, isn't it unethical? Impeachable? They impeached Clinton for lying, why shouldn't they impeach the current president for lying?
Clinton was impeached for Perjury and Obstruction of Justice. You can hope the D's take the House in 2018 and come up with a reason to impeach Trump. Unless that happens, you can and until 2020.
 
Old 03-12-2017, 07:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by dothetwist View Post
If President Bonkers' tweets were lies, does he just get away with it?
You have to prove that he knew he was lying as he was lying since he mostly tweets lies that he sees on fringe media outlets or retweets from whoever, its impossible to prove he knew he was lying, also being a gullible dumbass is not crime.
 
Old 03-12-2017, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Donald Trump has gotten away with pathologically lying all of his life, with zero consequences. Nothing will happen this time either. Hell, there isn't a day that goes by that he is fact checked and found to have either fabricated some "fact" or outright lied.

The best punishment for him is not something we would impose, it is the way he shoots himself in the foot a little more every time he does lie. He is like the boy who cried wolf too many times, and each time he loses a lot more credibility each time. And he keeps on doing it, knowing it will bite him in the butt each time.
 
Old 03-12-2017, 07:32 AM
 
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Everything Trump tweets can be categorized as fake news.
 
Old 03-12-2017, 07:36 AM
 
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Trump is exactly who we thought he was. I am not surprised by anything he does.
 
Old 03-12-2017, 07:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Brave New World View Post
Wiretapping is so antiquated it's not an issue.

GCHQ can tap any phone in the world, they can do so via fibre optics by tapping cables, such as the cables near GCHQ which carry phone and internet cables and they can do so via satellite communications.

Even Cell/Mobile phone commications use firbre optics which can be tapped in to, the idea of an agency needing a wiretap is hilarious.

GCHQ even state they have the ability to tap any phone, any where and it was GCHQ that first went to the US Agencies claiming Russian involvement.

Just so you understand how this works, GCHQ work so closely with the NSA that they are almost a branch of the NSA however US Laws and the US Constitution do not apply to GCHQ.

It has now been proved that the NSA has been paying GCHQ to carry out work, they gave them £100 million a few years ago and also paid for an upgrade of GCHQ Bude where major fibre optic transatlantic cable link the US and Europe.

In terms of the NSA it has it's biggest overseas base in the UK at Menwith Hill in Yorkshire, which has NSA and GCHQ Staff, a further secretive base is Croughton a US Base in the UK linked to the hacking of Angela Merkel's phones and GCHQ at Cheltenham is directly linked to Fort Meade in Maryland.

The NSA and US Agencies could easily deny knowledge, and stay within the US Laws and Constitution by having trusted foreign agencies carry out the work for them, it's a long established trick and believe me Donald Trump's phones and communications would have been subject to scrutiny by lots of interested foreign intelligence agencies when he was running for President.
I'd be surprised if his communications were not "subject to scrutiny" by several interested parties.

As Trump owes a boatload of money to Bayrock Group and Deutsche Bank, I imagine they are keeping a close eye on him.
 
Old 03-12-2017, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Here's how it works and how the NSA and CIA get around US Laws and the Constitution using GCHQ and Five Eye, and the fact is US Citizens are spied on by foreign intelligence agencies often funded by the US Government itself. Indeed the relationship between the NSA and GCHQ is far closer than the relationship between the NSA and the CIA according to intelligemce experts.

It should be noted that Hannigan's recent resignation has shocked the intelligence world.

Interview: James Bamford on surveillance, Snowden and technology companies - Computer Weekly

Britain’s GCHQ Virtually A Branch Office Of America’s NSA – Parliament Unable To Hold It To Account

NSA-GCHQ Spying: "The Core of the Special Relationship"

Britain's GCHQ 'the brains,' America's NSA 'the money' behind spy alliance | The Japan Times
Be that as it may, it still doesn't undercut the fact that Trump's wiretap charge was baseless, lacked any evidence and Trump still hasn't said how he came to that wild conclusion.

What it did do, is have the press dash towards a new shiny object and away from Trump's connections to Russia, which he has more connections with Russia than aeroflot.
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