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Old 03-06-2017, 04:58 PM
 
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It certainly will explode as in off the face of the Earth. Two weeks from now this baseless story will be completely forgotten.

You can call it baseless or whatever you like but that doesn't mean it all really IS baseless.


And you can hope it will be forgotten but it won't be. Some of us have extremely good long term memory. I agree that since the Obama conglomeration is trucking out a 'possible scandal of the day' every weekday now and have succeeded magnificently in reducing most people's attention spans to about half a second now, along with the fact that they are the world's greatest 'plausible deniers' and 'parsers/wordsmiths', many dolts will have moved on to whatever is happening then. It may 'seem' to be buried in short order however some of us also have x-ray vision and can see the pileup of garbage under the rug and the elephant in the nation's living room. It is getting higher and higher and eventually even the masses will not be able to ignore it, like it or not.


None of this is about to stop .. on either side.
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Old 03-06-2017, 05:01 PM
 
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Paul Ryan dodging the question as well... from 3:30 - 5:15 of the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kehBUCLpPIs

Reporter brings up two Obama FISA requests to do surveillance on Trump. One in June - that was rejected. One in October - that was accepted. Details here...

Disingenuous Denials on FISA Surveillance of Trump

To summarize, reporting indicates that, prior to June 2016, the Obama Justice Department and FBI considered a criminal investigation of Trump associates, and perhaps Trump himself, based on concerns about connections to Russian financial institutions. Preliminary poking around indicated that there was nothing criminal involved. Rather than shut the case down, though, the Obama Justice Department converted it into a national-security investigation under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA)

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In June, the Obama Justice Department submitted an application that apparently named Trump in addition to some of his associates.

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In any event, the FISA court reportedly turned down the Obama Justice Department's request, which is notable: The FISA court is notoriously solicitous of government requests to conduct national-security surveillance (although, as I've noted over the years, the claim by many that it is a rubber-stamp is overblown).Not taking no for an answer, the Obama Justice Department evidently returned to the FISA court in October 2016, the critical final weeks of the presidential campaign. This time, the Justice Department submitted a narrowly tailored application that did not mention Trump.



So it looks like Trump is correct in blaming Obama for the leaks.

It is also interesting that we have the media buzz about Trump colluding with Russia to cheat the election... and in the meantime, Team Obama is wiretapping his opponent in the last days of the campaign.
Paul Ryan was obviously nervous when asked the qst at 3:30 in the clip. Look how he swallows hard when Brett Baier asks about Obama's involvement at 3:36.

Obviously, Ryan tried to keep the whole conversation on Russian hacking to avoid the wiretapping questions.

This is not looking good for Paul Ryan and his swamp friends on both sides of the aisle.
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