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Old 03-09-2017, 08:34 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by EDnurse View Post
If you want to know so badly, then look it up yourself.
I know what it is. Let's see if you do...

What is the IRS reported average effective federal income tax rate paid for:

All incomes above $2,136,762 (top 0.1%)?

Incomes from $38,173 to $77,714 (middle class)?

Spoiler
27.67% for the former.
7.47% for the latter.

 
Old 03-09-2017, 08:41 AM
 
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You don't just stop old systems and processes cold turkey without any costs. There are people that will be out of the loop, there are claims and processes that are mid stream that need special handling for months if not years after.

Volume not for administration, but actual care. Unless you mean "contractors" that are doctors and nurses?
You're not stopping one system and switching to a new system.

You're stopping billing multiple payers and billing one payer instead.

By "contractors" I mean HHS vendors that process healthcare applications and claims.
 
Old 03-09-2017, 08:41 AM
 
Location: CT
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I'm not going to like what they come up with so I'm good with just scrapping it and hoping people actually learn a lesson for next time.
The republicans have had how many years to prepare for this moment? Trump has handed them the baton and told them to run with it, and it's a fail. You're going to get Obamacare lite because they have nothing else to offer.
 
Old 03-09-2017, 08:45 AM
 
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The republicans have had how many years to prepare for this moment? Trump has handed them the baton and told them to run with it, and it's a fail. You're going to get Obamacare lite because they have nothing else to offer.
We're going to get a law that will lock millions of Americans out of healthcare once again, while raising the cost and cutting the benefits for those who will still be able to afford it.

But never fear, the leeching billion dollar insurance executives get a YUGE tax break, so it's all good.
 
Old 03-09-2017, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Ryan said this would be in phase 3.
Why not phase 1?
 
Old 03-09-2017, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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It's a ridiculous idea... there are already 5 states where the law welcomes out-of-state insurers, and none have taken them up on it. Why? Health plans are priced according to networks and the risk pool in that market. Why does anyone think a health insurer is going to let NYC Nelly pay Mississippi rates for her health insurance, when the insurer has to pay for the expensive NYC doctors she sees? It's a meaningless gesture to make people feel some "innovation" is coming to healthcare.
Exactly. Most insurance companies contract with area providers. Who want to drive two states away for their colonoscopy to save $15/month in premiums?
 
Old 03-09-2017, 08:53 AM
 
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Anything they come up with will be a modified ACA, I don't care if you call it Trump care but they need to find a happy median. They want to roll back the cost of the program but at the same time they don't have a real solution to capturing healthy people. I don't see tax credits being inviting for those in their 20's and I see very little in the way of addressing out of control costs for medical care.


One of the problems with the existing ACA and Medicare & Medicaid is that there is no or very little skin in the game for the patients.
Premiums, co-pays and deductibles are in there except for the very poor.
 
Old 03-09-2017, 08:55 AM
 
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Why not phase 1?
Too complicated!

(lol)
 
Old 03-09-2017, 09:07 AM
 
Location: CT
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We're going to get a law that will lock millions of Americans out of healthcare once again, while raising the cost and cutting the benefits for those who will still be able to afford it.

But never fear, the leeching billion dollar insurance executives get a YUGE tax break, so it's all good.
I'd like to slam the insurers as a bunch of greedy leeches too, but even they are holding their noses on this stinker.
 
Old 03-09-2017, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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These "free marketers" voted down the ability of people to buy less expensive drugs elsewhere.
Too many on the right talk a good game then vote for more government.
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