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Old 03-08-2017, 06:37 PM
 
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In another thread, someone suggested the following solution to poverty. I can't remember who this person was, so if you think this was your idea please speak up.

Here's the solution. Basic income for life of about ~$2000/month to anyone with one condition: voluntarily submit oneself to sterilization. Within a generation or so, the problem of poverty will be solved.

This suggestion was written on here a few weeks ago. On the outside, it sounds horrid, doesn't it? But I cannot find anything logically wrong with this policy. Put aside political correctness for a moment. What exactly is wrong with this solution?
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:42 PM
 
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Both vasectomies and tubal ligations can be reversed, for starters. Nor is either 100% effective as birth control.
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:45 PM
 
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What's wrong with it? It's based on theft.
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:47 PM
 
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Poverty is not a gene.
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:48 PM
 
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Both vasectomies and tubal ligations can be reversed, for starters. Nor is either 100% effective as birth control.
Assume there is a way to ensure the sterilization works as intended.
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:48 PM
 
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But in a generation or so, 2k a month would be pennies.
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:50 PM
 
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I don't think its an immoral idea since it is completely voluntary. It just wouldn't eliminate poverty. American "poverty" isn't at all the same thing as international poverty. American poverty is relative to how other Americans are doing financially. The concept of American poverty is a useful, highly flexible tool for politicians to utilize to push for their preferred policy programs.

One could already make the argument that there is no true poverty in the US. No one is starving to death. All Americans can get basic clothing if they need it. Relatively few Americans are truly homeless through no fault of their own.

I guess my underlying point is that while the OP's idea would probably improve society, it wouldn't eliminate "poverty" because poverty would simply be defined in some new way.
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:50 PM
 
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poverty is not a gene.
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:50 PM
 
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Poverty is not a gene.
No, but the attitude of poverty gets passed from generation to generation. Impoverished people also have a much higher fertility rate than everybody else.
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:51 PM
 
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2K/month is not pulling anyone out of poverty in say, NYC, especially if they already have children.
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