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Old 03-12-2017, 07:53 PM
 
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Why should my hard earned money that pays for property taxes go to teach an illegal.

Hawaii teacher under fire for saying he would not teach illegal immigrant students | Fox News

 
Old 03-12-2017, 08:00 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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By the time the kid is siting in class how does one know their status???
 
Old 03-12-2017, 08:09 PM
 
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By the time the kid is siting in class how does one know their status???
The article stated that the teacher was responding to a school counselor's email about students staying home out of fear of being deported.

So I guess in this particular instance it was easy.
 
Old 03-12-2017, 08:09 PM
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I never understood how they were allowed in to begin with. Somehow illegals are allowed to skip the required documentation requirements (ss#, birth certificate. Etc.) or are provided alternate means?
 
Old 03-12-2017, 08:32 PM
 
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I never understood how they were allowed in to begin with. Somehow illegals are allowed to skip the required documentation requirements (ss#, birth certificate. Etc.) or are provided alternate means?
Apparently this is how/why:

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The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Plyler vs. Doe (457 U.S. 202 (1982)) that undocumented children and young adults have the same right to attend public primary and secondary schools as do U.S. citizens and permanent residents. Like other children, undocumented students are obliged under state law to attend school until they reach a mandated age.

As a result of the Plyler ruling, public schools may not:

Deny admission to a student during initial enrollment or at any other time on the basis of undocumented status.

Treat a student differently to determine residency.

Engage in any practices to "chill" the right of access to school.

Require students or parents to disclose or document their immigration status.

Make inquiries of students or parents that may expose their undocumented status.

Require social security numbers from all students, as this may expose undocumented status.

Students without social security numbers should be assigned a number generated by the school. Adults without social security numbers who are applying for a free lunch and/or breakfast program on behalf of a student need only indicate on the application that they do not have a social security number.

Changes in the F-1 (Student) Visa Program do not alter the Plyler obligations to undocumented children.
These changes apply only to students who apply for a student visa from outside the U.S.

Finally, school personnel -- especially building principals and those involved with student intake activities -- should be aware that they have no legal obligation to enforce U.S. immigration laws. (U.S. Supreme Court, 1982)

Immigrant Student
 
Old 03-12-2017, 08:40 PM
 
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How many illegals are in the state of Hawaii. I would have to assume they are all folks who visas have expired. I also wonder how would this teacher know if one of his students is a illegal. I started out as a teacher and taught many illegals over the years. The law required I do so and suspect Hawaii has the same law. It would be interesting to see if that teacher would walk away from his/her job behind this.
 
Old 03-13-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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Apparently this is how/why:




Immigrant Student

Dumbest ruling the Supreme Court has ever made.
 
Old 03-13-2017, 09:38 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Parents must give an excuse why their kids are not in school. Fear of deportation is an interesting excuse.
 
Old 03-13-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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After all these years, the complaining continues. The solution is simple.

If we do not want illegals and their children in the USA, we should stop patronizing the people who hire them.

It could stop tomorrow, and all the students would go back to where they came from.
 
Old 03-13-2017, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Denying a child a chance at an education is wrong. Period.

Making the decision to do so on the basis of having had the misfortune of having been born to illegal immigrants makes you no better than the Taliban, who based the decision on the child's misfortune of having been born a girl. Both are absolutely shameful.
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