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Originally Posted by CanalsLB
My ex was a NY city detective. She arrested a perp for credit card fraud (stolen credit card).
When they went through his wallet they discovered 3 welfare IDs with his picture and 3 different names.
They were not allowed to do anything about the cards because it was federal jurisdiction. The only thing she could do was tape the cards together and drop them in a mailbox ( like they were lost).
She could have gotten in trouble for doing this. Some system!
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Sorry, but I don't believe a word of this. Mind you, I'm not saying you're making it up - but I think your ex was not being honest with you. If it were true, there would have been nothing at all to prevent her from calling it in anonymously on the fraud prevention hotline as a private citizen.
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Originally Posted by petch751
And now we're back to ... if people would stop defending the people who shouldn't be defended... people who are able to work, women making babies they can't support, dead beat dads shirking their responsibilities knowing the tax payer will be forced to pay for them. These are the people who make everyone look bad. Stop defending them and support programs where they have to work like the rest of us.
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And just exactly who is defending that? Go on - find one single post in this thread, or for that matter any other example anywhere else. Come back here and show it to us, and then - maybe - some of us will stop laughing at you and start to take you seriously.
Until then, you're just ranting and raving and talking out of your hindquarters about something you don't know a damned thing about.
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Originally Posted by petch751
Yet somehow able bodied people are able to get around them and the honest and truly disabled get doors slammed in their faces.
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OK, if you're framing this in terms of people who are disabled, I assume you're talking about disability programs such as SSDI. And if that's the case, then it's just one more example of how you don't seem to have any idea of what you're talking about.
I don't think you have the slightest clue how difficult it is for most people to get approved for SSDI. We spent years helping a severely disabled family friend work through the process and get his SSDI approved, and it was literally a nightmare. I don't think I ever met anyone in my life who was more clearly and completely disabled than he was, and I could not believe the hoops he had to jump through.
After almost two years, the situation was finally resolved when the head of the state's SSDI field office called me and asked me to just lay it all out there for her, because she couldn't understand why his application had been rejected so many times. I walked her through the paperwork one step at a time, and at the end of the conversation she said this was as clearcut a case of disability as she had ever seen.
I asked her, "well, then why is this kid still eating nothing but Ramen noodles 2 days out of every 3 and having to go to the emergency room for vitamin deficiencies"? She told me straight out - "the system is set up to screen people out, not let them in. screeners are trained to click the checkboxes and disqualify people if they give the wrong answer to any question, regardless of whether the body of evidence shows that they are legitimately disabled." As we walked through it, she said something to the effect that if this case did not meet the standards for permanent disability, then she didn't know what SSDI was even supposed to be for. 2 days later, Gus called me at 8 PM and said, "what did you say to that woman? there's $16,000 in my checking account!" Keep in mind, that was after fighting for almost 3 years. Take a moment to reflect on how far 16K would go if you were almost 3 years behind on most of your bills. He was only rich for 2 or 3 days.
Point is, anyone who seriously thinks that all someone has to do is show up and say, "hey, I ain't feelin' well, cut me a check" has been listening to the wrong radio stations. Again. In most circumstances, it is
extremely difficult even for people who are egregiously disabled to get approved without fighting for years - which is incredibly difficult for people who are so sick they can not even work at a 7-11. Of course there are some exceptions, but overwhelmingly, it's vastly more common for eligible people to be turned down than ineligible people to be approved.
You say this is an issue that is important to you... well, if it truly is, then I suggest you spend some time and energy learning more about it. Because with all due respect, I think you're woefully misinformed.
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Originally Posted by tamajane
It would be great if some of the people who cannot cope out in the workplace could be set up to do some kind of work from home. Sometimes that is the only problem- they cannot get out because of physical or mental issues but can be productive if they could work from their environment. Lots of autistic people are excellent with technology, and can communicate well through writing. Some people can barely walk or move well but they could do something remotely from home.
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I think that would be stellar. Thank you, that was an excellent post.
I know at least one severely disabled person who is incredibly talented, intelligent, and creative and every now and then can probably have a month or two where he could do one hell of a lot of extremely innovative things. Trouble is, he never has any way of knowing when that month is going to be, because most months he needs me to come to his house ad balance his checkbook for him, because he can't do basic math that week.
He's autistic, and suffers from anxiety disorder in relation to that.
But, every now and then, things just fall into place, and everything just comes together and
works
for a week or two, and... suddenly, out of nowhere, the kid can accomplish a hell of a lot in just a few days. He could never explain how and why it works that way, but it just does, and during those periods he makes me feel like an underachieving moron. I feel as though I'm being played with by some alien super-species.
And then, a couple of days later, he's calling us up and asking if one of us can come over and help him organize his refrigerator so that food doesn't spoil before he knows it's time to eat it.
Same dude.
Point of that is, most of the day to day that every single adult in our society has to deal with and takes for granted is light-years out of his orbit. Utterly incomprehensible to him, no matter how hard he tries and how many times he bangs his head against the wall; and believe you me this poor little bastard spends most of his waking hours banging his head against walls and trying desperately to understand why it doesn't get him any closer to understanding why it doesn't get him any closer to understanding his life.
So, yeah, you know... all the right-wingers in this thread... go ahead and keep telling everyone that it's all their fault, and that if they only tried harder to not be mentally ill then everything would work out the way it works out for you. But the fact is, none of you really have the slightest idea what you're taking about. Y'all seem to love sticking your chests out and boasting about how hard y'all are and how tough y'all are, and how everything that works in your lives works because you're so damned strong, but... if you had to switch places with some of the people I'm talking about, you probably wouldn't survive a month. Because you do not know what "tough" really means until you've had to be the kind of tough that they are.
But, ya know? I sincerely hope that someday you do. All of the right-wingers. I fervently hope that someday, you have the opportunity to learn what some of them have had no choice but to learn.
And if that day every comes for you, well... all I can say is, good luck to you.
And god help you.
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