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Old 03-16-2017, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Righties give more to charities that benefit themselves, the symphony, the opera, the schools their kids attend, their church...
^^^Spot on this post. Unfortunately I can't rep you again.
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Example. Nursing Home Transition. A once middle class, now poor elderly person wants to go home, the family is willing to help but they work full time so they'll need help. If your income is above the income limit even by a penny, your application for help is denied. On the other hand, if you haven't worked much though-out your life and you have low SS. you'll qualify for all kinds of free help. Below is an example of all the free things you will get:

* Free nursing assistance at home for 20 hours a week
- Free Medical, including dr visits
- Free medication,
- Free medical equipment,
- Free home modifications (stair glider, scooter, bathroom modifications etc)
- Free food (EBT, free meals on wheels, and food bank),
- Free phone,
- Free Assistance with heating,
- Free rental assistance
- Free ambulance rides to dr office,
- Free taxi to other places
- on and on

While your application as a "once" middle class person who fell into poverty will be rejected and you get no help. The tax payer keeps getting hit up for higher taxes and if you're middle class you better just quit or save your ass off to pay your way.
Is there a link for this program? Could it be that it was cheaper to do it that way than to keep them in the actual nursing home at the taxpayer's expense?
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Your compassion for your fellow man is duly noted. I especially am impressed by the fact that you are one of the posters here who likes to frequently spout your Christianity. All talk, huh?
Old proverb " There but for the grace of God, go I".
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:53 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Righties give more to charities that benefit themselves, the symphony, the opera, the schools their kids attend, their church...
Churches run food pantries, MoW in several areas, community outreach well-check programs for the elderly/disabled shut-ins, kids' programs for at-risk youth, and so on. Why balk at donating/volunteering to help those who are less fortunate? Why so cold-hearted? Give a little, or better yet, a lot. Karmic justice, and all that.
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:53 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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As for Amtrak, I live in the middle of the country, why should my tax dollar be going to pay for Amtrak? Your grandfather paid for meals on wheels. I know my mom has to or are you one of those that gets that free too.
Amtrak services the entire country, except for Alaska and Hawaii. It's not just a northeast rail line.

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Old 03-16-2017, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Houston
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and his idea of cutting foreign aid is 50 billion of that 54 billion


credit to Trump for proposing what 80% of americans want ...cut foreign aid
That's never going to happen and you know it. Stop propagating Trump's lies. It's funny how you guys keep cheering him on while at the time knowing he's lying to you. Or perhaps you refuse to accept the truth?
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Yes, many of them did. But seriously, adult children and grand-kids in our modern society don't all live in the same neighborhoods where they grew up enabling them to run meals over to their loved ones. My dad, for example, lived 75 miles away and we set him up with Meals on Wheels. It's not free for recipients but it's godsend for those who need it.
MoW asks for the beneficiary to make a donation- whatever they can afford and choose. Some do. Most do not.
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:57 AM
 
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As important as the hot meal delivery is, it serves as a wellness check on the elderly.

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Not everyone has a family.

As others have pointed out, M o W also provides a daily check-in on seniors.
If the delivery and daily wellness check is provided by volunteers and is a serious component of the program, this aspect would not have to be eliminated if the federal portion of the funding were cut.


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The NYT article seemed pretty informational, not spreading falsehoods. Anything in the article can be verified elsewhere. Let people who read be the judge of whether a media report is falsified or not.

What the article actually said was that the Development Block Grant of $3 billion will be cut. The grant funds Meals on Wheels among other programs like housing assistance and other community programs. I am unclear as to what percentage goes to Meals on Wheels.
I read somewhere that in 2013, 217 million was budgeted for nutritional meal delivery, I assume this is the Mo W program.

At any rate one delivered meal a day and someone poking their head in your door is not going to be the deal breaker between life and death or independence and a care facility.
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Is it fair to blame the Iraq War on Bush? It was, even though the 2002 NIE erroneous Iraq WMD Intel he was provided came from the same man Obama later promoted to be his DNI, James Clapper.
And your evidence that Clapper was the main source of that intel provided to Bush would be?, I find reference to Bush being briefed by the CIA and don't find that on Clapper's resume. And any way you cut it Bush initiated that war, he wasn't going back at someone who'd attacked us.

And what the hell does whatever Obama promoted him have to do with what Bush did in 2003? Trying to write a new form of revisionist history?

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Old 03-16-2017, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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Amazing how it's never really an investment to better the lives of the American people with infrastructure and social benefits, but all about defense/weapons, pro-corporations, and keeping "others" at bay all to the detriment of the American people, just cut everything else that keeps us in good shape and checked.
Whenever someone uses the word Investment to describe how the federal government should spend it's money, I get nervous. It's:

- time to move my wallet from my back pocket to my front pocket...to prevent the robbery.
- sure to make some connected person or persons wildly rich on the scheme.
- to make a class or group of people dependent on govt....thus enlarging the Socialist base.

Usually all 3.
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