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Pentagon officials believe the North Korean communist regime could soon have an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of hitting the United States, given the recent ground based rocket engine thrust test. They have attempted a missile launch withing the last 24 hours (that failed), presumably with the ICBM capable engine. But clearly it is just a matter of time before they have an ICBM and a warhead to match.
Apparently SOS Rex Tillerson suggested to Fox News's Rich Edson that the US would not rule out helping Asian allies Japan and South Korea to get nuclear weapons.
The good news is that Tillerson seems to comprehend the emerging threat of Kim Jong Un's nuclear program - at least he understands the gravity of the situation.
But then Tillerson criticizes the strategy of "strategic patience". His off the cuff remarks are surprising, considering that he and Trump have zero experience in this arena. In fact, it contradicts Trump's often repeated statements about how he would keep his military strategies on the low-down, rather than blab them to the world in advance. This seems to go directly against against that philosophy, and makes you wonder if Tillerson actually vetted these statements with Trump. Also makes you wonder how well he is working with the senior military advisors that surely understand Kim Jong-Un far better than he does. Does Tillerson really think that Kim Jong-Un will be cowed by the fact that he is surrounded by nukes in neighboring countries? It's like Tillerson/Trump think that that Kim Jong-Un has a rational mind.
The bad news of course is that the USA now has a Commander in Chief that is nearly as crazy as Kim Jong-Un. Manically twittering away in the middle of the night, this is a man that clearly has no brake between the thoughts in his head and his mouth and his twitter-thumbs. Do we really trust this guy to make sound strategic decisions in a situation like we have with North Korea? Do we really believe he will spend the time to deeply understand the prior experience of his military leaders regarding this issue and then take their advice? Wish I could say "yes" to those questions, but so far Trump has shown us that he will take advice from no one.
Two lunatics with nuclear weapons and little self control - how could this possibly go wrong?
Would these be the ICBMs they were not supposed to have developed after Bill Clinton paid them appeasement? A situation made worse by Obama because Obama was afraid of the Chinese?
This is yet another mess that Obama has left behind that Trump will now have to deal with.
Would these be the ICBMs they were not supposed to have developed after Bill Clinton paid them appeasement? A situation made worse by Obama because Obama was afraid of the Chinese?
This is yet another mess that Obama has left behind that Trump will now have to deal with.
I was wondering the same and I'm more concerned that Obama gave back hundreds of millions of dollars to Iran along with a weak deal to prevent them from developing nuclear weapons.
I highly doubt NK would launch knowing that the world would annihilate them.
Iran on the other hand could have a group of "terrorists" like isis take over a launch site and send a missile to wipe out Israel.
How would the world respond to that when a rogue band and not a nation launched the nuke?
Pentagon officials believe the North Korean communist regime could soon have an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of hitting the United States, given the recent ground based rocket engine thrust test. They have attempted a missile launch withing the last 24 hours (that failed), presumably with the ICBM capable engine. But clearly it is just a matter of time before they have an ICBM and a warhead to match.
Apparently SOS Rex Tillerson suggested to Fox News's Rich Edson that the US would not rule out helping Asian allies Japan and South Korea to get nuclear weapons.
The good news is that Tillerson seems to comprehend the emerging threat of Kim Jong Un's nuclear program - at least he understands the gravity of the situation.
But then Tillerson criticizes the strategy of "strategic patience". His off the cuff remarks are surprising, considering that he and Trump have zero experience in this arena. In fact, it contradicts Trump's often repeated statements about how he would keep his military strategies on the low-down, rather than blab them to the world in advance. This seems to go directly against against that philosophy, and makes you wonder if Tillerson actually vetted these statements with Trump. Also makes you wonder how well he is working with the senior military advisors that surely understand Kim Jong-Un far better than he does. Does Tillerson really think that Kim Jong-Un will be cowed by the fact that he is surrounded by nukes in neighboring countries? It's like Tillerson/Trump think that that Kim Jong-Un has a rational mind.
The bad news of course is that the USA now has a Commander in Chief that is nearly as crazy as Kim Jong-Un. Manically twittering away in the middle of the night, this is a man that clearly has no brake between the thoughts in his head and his mouth and his twitter-thumbs. Do we really trust this guy to make sound strategic decisions in a situation like we have with North Korea? Do we really believe he will spend the time to deeply understand the prior experience of his military leaders regarding this issue and then take their advice? Wish I could say "yes" to those questions, but so far Trump has shown us that he will take advice from no one.
Two lunatics with nuclear weapons and little self control - how could this possibly go wrong?
Trump will get the Chinese to get North Korea in line. Or else he will just drop an atom bomb on top of Pyongyang and end it for good.
Would these be the ICBMs they were not supposed to have developed after Bill Clinton paid them appeasement? A situation made worse by Obama because Obama was afraid of the Chinese?
This is yet another mess that Obama has left behind that Trump will now have to deal with.
Whatever. The root cause of the "mess" began when we left Korea in 1953. The reference to Obama was a nice try at deflection, though.
The topic of the post was - do you trust Trump to make sound strategic decisions regarding Korea? If so, why? He hasn't shown us that he is willing to listen to his military advisers about anything, so far. How do YOU think we ought to proceed?
Trump will get the Chinese to get North Korea in line. Or else he will just drop an atom bomb on top of Pyongyang and end it for good.
Do you really believe that would "end it for good"? Dropping that bomb would irradiate South Korea, Japan as well as parts of China, and further around the world depending on the prevailing winds - so there would be a lot of collateral damage. Could that trigger a worldwide nuclear war? Hard to say, but do you really think that NK wouldn't share nukes with Iran for example? Do you really think they would hesitate to use them in retaliation? It's very hard to imagine the Pentagon pushing for a preemptive nuclear strike, unless we've got a neutron bomb sitting around somewhere.
I was wondering the same and I'm more concerned that Obama gave back hundreds of millions of dollars to Iran along with a weak deal to prevent them from developing nuclear weapons.
I highly doubt NK would launch knowing that the world would annihilate them.
Iran on the other hand could have a group of "terrorists" like isis take over a launch site and send a missile to wipe out Israel.
How would the world respond to that when a rogue band and not a nation launched the nuke?
You guys love to get your schwanzstuckers in a wringer about what Obama did, when it's ancient history. The man is gone and forgotten and marginalized. Now it's a new day, and it is ALL in Trump's court about how we will handle this situation.
No matter what any President does, there will come a day when nukes are used by someone, somewhere in the world. That is the harsh reality, there is no going back to some pre-Trinity world. The only question is what will happen the day AFTER one of those nukes are used. Who do you want at the helm of the world's nuclear arsenals? Donald Trump, a president with zero experience with national defense, and with an erratic and completely unpredictable personality? Vladimir Putin, a Russian thug with the morals and values of a rabid wolf? It's hard to find an upside.
North Korean ICBM missiles will change nothing. North Korea fires off test missiles and gnashes their teeth in an effort to achieve recognition by the rest of the world.
I think Trump will ignore North Korea. The press will shriek their silly heads off and talk about how Los Angeles is "threatened" and pull their hair out while screaming that Trump should "do something", but Trump is too smart for that.
For that matter, North Korea is too smart to start anything.
But South Korea may purchase or be supplied with a missile defense system.
You guys love to get your schwanzstuckers in a wringer about what Obama did, when it's ancient history.
No it's not ancient history. The mess in Washington DC and Internationally is very real (3 wars of choice). North Korea. All of it caused by Obama.
Obama made YUGE numbers of mistakes and it doesn't hurt to talk about them lest me make them again.
(But I do get why you don't want to talk about it.)
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