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That's not how it works in the US. And chilling that there are folks that think it's OK to just listen in on conversations with no warrants, then use that information for political game play.
That's precisely the problem with what Nunes did - open the door to false political speculation.
Correct me if I'm wrong - but did even Nunes suggest this happened - that any of this reports were ever used for political purposes? It's sure the implication - but did he SAY that? So far it seems the only "leaking" was done by Nunes himself. Yesterday - for HIS political purposes.
Plus, he said the collections WERE legal.
Nunes doesn't seem to have seen a conclusive investigative report but instead viewed a series of raw intelligence intercepts. He viewed them at ONE location. How would he know what had been done with them? Nothing he said seems to say.
I've no idea what the procedures are for handling incidental collections. Are the agencies allowed to destroy them? I'd be surprised if the answer is yes. So, yes, they exist.
But so what? Nunes did say that some involved the President's family. Well, given that they involve themselves in his affairs that's hardly surprising. Kushner was in contact with the Russian ambassador during the transition. No problem with that - and so, yes, he easily could have an incidental contact report on file about other non-Russian contacts that are also under some sort of investigation.
^^^ This is the precise problem with what Nunes did - no one knows what the heck he saw or is talking about.
What he DID do was destroy his position as the Chair of the House Intel Committee. Supposedly some Republicans had advance notice and advised him against it.
In his last days of office, Obama expanded the NSA's ability to share data with other agencies including the CIA, FBI and Homeland Security. This increased chances for leaks. If this move was so great why didn't Obama do this earlier in his term?
He had a motive already in mind when he did that, and its coming out now. The intent was likely to spy on the Trump Campaign and make it easier for Hillary to know what Trump was doing, and as we have seen from WikiLeaks, every dirty trick they had was used, so why not this one too. Its all going to come out eventually. Now the Dems are mad because the beans are being spilled and they could not get in fast enough to cover it up.
That's not how it works in the US. And chilling that there are folks that think it's OK to just listen in on conversations with no warrants, then use that information for political game play.
Exactly a party in power rooted in over 8 years of judge and bureaucrat appointments spying on the opposition party then leaking information to the politically biased press in an effort to sway the election. This is sickening and the denials/justifications from the left are condemning. This is the type of stuff that forced Nixon to resign.
I've also said multiple times that coordination with Russia to sabotage the Clinton campaign should be the least of Trump's concerns. That's an easier charge to beat IMO. What should be making Trump nervous is the FBI combing through his financial relationships with Russian organized crime. That's more likely to take him down than the DNC stuff.
Your confusing "Scraping the Bottom of the Barrel" with combing through Trumps relationships. Not the same thing. The Democrats have been raking through the bottoms of barrel's so long, that now they think these Dumpster Dives qualify as "Investigations." Shows ho delusional they are and still desperate.
H had a motive already in mind when he did that, and its coming out now. The intent was likely to spy on the Trump Campaign and make it easier for Hillary to know what Trump was doing, and as we have seen from WikiLeaks, every dirty trick they had was used, so why not this one too. Its all going to come out eventually. Now the Dems are mad because the beans are being spilled and they could not get in fast enough to cover it up.
Exactly every news report said "Trump claims wiretapping with no evidnece!" This has been playing 24/7 for what 3 weeks now? An obvious effort to cover it up and discredit Trump as they systematically do. The press is actually the arm of the democrat party. It's no wonder that the Trump "leaks" came out through the washington post and CNN. The same news outlets caught colluding with the hillary campain to take out Bernie Sanders and Trump.
H had a motive already in mind when he did that, and its coming out now. The intent was likely to spy on the Trump Campaign and make it easier for Hillary to know what Trump was doing, and as we have seen from WikiLeaks, every dirty trick they had was used, so why not this one too. Its all going to come out eventually. Now the Dems are mad because the beans are being spilled and they could not get in fast enough to cover it up.
These were intercepts from the TRANSITION, not the campaign. Too late for Hillary to become President.
That you instinctively move the scene to the Campaign is part of why this makes little sense. Reclassifying material about Russia during the transition makes some sense due to legitimate concerns about Russian interference in the election. And no doubt Democratic fears that the Trump Administration would attempt to bury the investigations.
But it's pretty hard to speculate about motives for other transition leaks since Nunes was not kind enough to provide the investigative subject (targets) yesterday. Who knows?
It's amazing that Trump supporters have no problem with the Trump associates colluding with Russians to make sure that Trump such as but rather want to cry foul because the information was leaked. Yet...Nunes comes put with information that is clearly leaked and Trump supporters rejoice that the orange sloth has been proven right. I give up
Whats more "Amazing" is that Democrats had no problem with Hillary putting the stamp of approval on selling Russia over 25% of our enriched Uranium, so they could build more Bombs and now the Democrats want to start a War with Russia so they will send us back our Uranium on the Warheads of ICBM's. Thats whats "Amazing.."
Nunes Confirms There Was "Incidental Surveillance" Of Trump During Obama Administration
Relax, everybody. It's no big deal.
Look...
Nunes is a tRump boy. His little song and dance routine yesterday was nothing more than a silly distraction.
So, some tRump associates were mentioned in intercepts. Heck, it would probably be a very long list of US politicians/operatives who have been "mentioned" in conversations with foreign nationals who are under surveillance.
But Nunes has outed himself as unreliable and hyperpartisan to the point that Ryan should definitely replace this bozo as chair of the intel committee. He's completely unsuited to the role.
Whats more "Amazing" is that Democrats had no problem with Hillary putting the stamp of approval on selling Russia over 25% of our enriched Uranium, so they could build more Bombs and now the Democrats want to start a War with Russia so they will send us back our Uranium on the Warheads of ICBM's. Thats whats "Amazing.."
No, what's amazing is that you people keep repeating this total bull**** over and over again, no matter how many times it's debunked. Have you people no self-respect?
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Nunes Confirms There Was "Incidental Surveillance" Of Trump During Obama Administration
