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Old 04-17-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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Louise Mensch, whose intel community sources on Trump-Russia have been right on the money so far, reports that Carter Page took a recording of Trump offering to make political concessions to Russia in exchange for help with the election.

Page, Manafort, and Boris Epshteyn are on another tape discussing the plan to send Page to Moscow with the tape of Trump.

https://patribotics.blog/2017/04/16/...n-for-hacking/

Intel sources: Donald Trump and three advisers caught on tape committing Russian treason - Palmer Report

If she is receiving and reporting accurate information, we may be getting close to the end game here.

Maybe Melania won't have to pack after all.
Please take your Med's I read your points and they go in circles and where is the no proof. We are talking about tapes and surveillance . I am sure under the Obama Administration they would of been release and Comey had gone dark on this.


Besides Trump is clearly No friend of Russia with the Missile Strikes.

 
Old 04-17-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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Please take your Med's I read your points and they go in circles and where is the no proof. We are talking about tapes and surveillance . I am sure under the Obama Administration they would of been release and Comey had gone dark on this.


Besides Trump is clearly No friend of Russia with the Missile Strikes.
The missile strike business was a bit of political theater. Changes nothing. Seems you were fooled yet again. Sorry.

Not sure how you got lost in circles, but my post was straightforward.

Mensch reports that Carter Page took a recording of Trump offering to make political concessions to Russia in exchange for help with the election.

Page, Manafort, and Boris Epshteyn are on another tape discussing the plan to send Page to Moscow with the tape of Trump.

It is an example of "incidental surveillance" catching team Trump in the net, and may well be what Nunes' was racing all around trying to keep from coming out.
 
Old 04-17-2017, 10:38 AM
 
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Susan Rice Did Nothing Wrong, Say Both Dems and Republicans
Susan Rice Did Nothing Wrong, Say Both Dems and Republicans - NBC News
 
Old 04-17-2017, 10:40 AM
 
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Susan Rice Did Nothing Wrong, Say Both Dems and Republicans
Susan Rice Did Nothing Wrong, Say Both Dems and Republicans - NBC News
Sigh.

Turns out the midnight right of Paul Revere here was all for naught.
 
Old 04-17-2017, 10:45 AM
 
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The missile strike business was a bit of political theater. Changes nothing. Seems you were fooled yet again. Sorry.

Not sure how you got lost in circles, but my post was straightforward.

Mensch reports that Carter Page took a recording of Trump offering to make political concessions to Russia in exchange for help with the election.

Page, Manafort, and Boris Epshteyn are on another tape discussing the plan to send Page to Moscow with the tape of Trump.

It is an example of "incidental surveillance" catching team Trump in the net, and may well be what Nunes' was racing all around trying to keep from coming out.
I read a good number of major news sites every morning, domestic and foreign...

If what you report is all so true and damning, why would there not be headline news here and across the world that Trump exchanged favors with Russia to get help getting elected?

AKA grounds for immediate impeachment proceedings?

Not saying what you are reporting isn't true, but if true, why am I reading no such headlines?

And/or have you a link to any such headlines from any of the major news sources?

More than just curious and concerned about this even though I'm no Trump supporter. I am concerned for America and her already broken political system...
 
Old 04-17-2017, 11:03 AM
 
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I read a good number of major news sites every morning, domestic and foreign...

If what you report is all so true and damning, why would there not be headline news here and across the world that Trump exchanged favors with Russia to get help getting elected?

AKA grounds for immediate impeachment proceedings?

Not saying what you are reporting isn't true, but if true, why am I reading no such headlines?

And/or have you a link to any such headlines from any of the major news sources?

More than just curious and concerned about this even though I'm no Trump supporter. I am concerned for America and her already broken political system...
Mensch has been ahead of the curve on much of this investigation. Flynn... etc.

Whether major news sources are cultivating their own sources or whether she blew it this time remains to be seen. Details to follow.

Though I have no idea if it is true ("I heard it on Fox News. Blame Fox not me."), it is easy enough to envision Page and Flynn doing this with Manafort's encouragement.

It also explains why Nunes' was running all over town, trying to stir things up at the risk of being taken for a Trump stooge.
 
Old 04-17-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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Mensch has been ahead of the curve on much of this investigation. Flynn... etc.

Whether major news sources are cultivating their own sources or whether she blew it this time remains to be seen. Details to follow.

Though I have no idea if it is true ("I heard it on Fox News. Blame Fox not me."), it is easy enough to envision Page and Flynn doing this with Manafort's encouragement.

It also explains why Nunes' was running all over town, trying to stir things up at the risk of being taken for a Trump stooge.
I guess I'm just simply waiting for the "smoke to clear" about all this before I begin to seriously consider what has been confirmed or not. Seemed you were making a case that all was clear enough to have impeachment proceedings beginning now, and in that case, so too would be the headlines, but that's far from the case as of yet.
 
Old 04-17-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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I guess I'm just simply waiting for the "smoke to clear" about all this before I begin to seriously consider what has been confirmed or not. Seemed you were making a case that all was clear enough to have impeachment proceedings beginning now, and in that case, so too would be the headlines, but that's far from the case as of yet.

Not making a case for his immediate impeachment as I doubt he will be impeached.

I believe he will fold like a cheap suitcase, as he always does when it is clear he will lose.

And if what she reports is accurate, even Trump will know the end is near here.

Let's just put a pin on it and see what happens.
 
Old 04-17-2017, 11:25 AM
 
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Not making a case for his immediate impeachment as I doubt he will be impeached.

I believe he will fold like a cheap suitcase, as he always does when it is clear he will lose.

And if what she reports is accurate, even Trump will know the end is near here.

Let's just put a pin on it and see what happens.
Fair enough...

Just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed something, some late-breaking news, because I keep reading these comments and arguments that suggest the "lid's been blown open," but still nothing of any real definitive consequence or conclusion in the news the next day. Is this what the new day of fake news is like then? On a daily basis?
 
Old 04-17-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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Not making a case for his immediate impeachment as I doubt he will be impeached.

I believe he will fold like a cheap suitcase, as he always does when it is clear he will lose.

And if what she reports is accurate, even Trump will know the end is near here.

Let's just put a pin on it and see what happens.
What exactly can Trump "lose"?
His approval rating is 41% at Gallup.
That is higher than Obama's was-
2011 Aug 8-14: 40%
2011 Aug 15-21: 40%
2011 Aug 22-28: 40%
2011 Sep 12-18: 40%
2011 Oct 3-9: 40%
2013 Nov 18-24: 40%
2013 Dec 16-22: 40%
2014 Jan 13-19: 40%
2014 Feb 10-16: 40%
And Trump fans don't even answer polls.
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