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The rich shouldn't pay anything. They're not using government health care. They pay for their own care.
That's the difference between rich Democrats and rich Republicans -- rich Democrats don't mind paying higher taxes for the good of the country.
It also underscores the difference in ideology. Liberals believe in a private market economy which those who have done better than most are taxed more to pay for public benefits. This side believes that it's only right for the affluent to help the less fortunate.
Conservatives believe that people have a right to keep what they earn, and that taxing them to support others, no matter how needy, amounts to theft. Conservatives really do see taxes and regulation as tyrannical impositions on their liberty.
The question is: Which side has a better model and works better? The conservative model leaves us with an Oliver Twist society in which there is vast wealth and the poor dying in the streets -- with the middle class living hand-to-mouth. The liberal model gives us a civilized society and a large middle class living well and the poor taken care of. The rich will have less but they'll still be rich. Vast income inequality does not the country well.
That's the difference between rich Democrats and rich Republicans -- rich Democrats don't mind paying higher taxes for the good of the country.
Obama extended the Bush tax cuts permanently. If you want to argue that Obama is no liberal I will agree with you but there was no outcry from liberals when he did this.
Obama will most certainly personally gain from these cuts now.
I'm good with that, BUT we must remove the illegal aliens because they are getting "free" stuff thus their reason for coming. They get FREE medical care through the emergency room and some public clinics. Some states even give them free maternity care for their anchor. Imagine the cost of just birthing them and we pick up the tab.
Maybe if we paid for ourselves and didn't have to pay for others like the illegal aliens, maybe care would be less expensive.
It shouldn't be about having health insurance, but about AFFORDABLE CARE. Trump says that he will be addressing that. Health insurance makes the middle man rich.
Payment plans are only available to those whose credit qualifies for them. That excludes a lot of people, particularly when it comes to things like chemotherapy or major surgery.
Trump isn't paying for his own health care. The taxpayers are. For years, Jay Rockefeller never paid for his own health care, the tax payers did. (the list is endless)
I hear you but my point is even if one does not work for the fed, receiving fine health insurance via the fed, and are very wealthy, even these guys are concerned about their health insurance. There was a time back in the 1930s that over 90% of Americans could not afford health insurance, even the wealthy at the time had difficulty.
I'm curious to know what coverage Trump had before and whether he excepted coverage through the fed. After all he apparently donated his salary to the Treasury.
I hear you but my point is even if one does not work for the fed, receiving fine health insurance via the fed, and are very wealthy, even these guys are concerned about their health insurance. There was a time back in the 1930s that over 90% of Americans could not afford health insurance, even the wealthy at the time had difficulty.
I'm curious to know what coverage Trump had before and whether he excepted coverage through the fed. After all he apparently donated his salary to the Treasury.
Yes, I was simply trying to expand upon your point.
You mean like the employer-paid health insurance some people get for free without paying tax?
They are not really getting it for free. Money is fungible. All or at least a portion of it is coming out of money that would likely be added to their salary. People often choose jobs for less money but good benefits over a job with more money but crappy benefits.
These prices are jacked up because the people charging them see a mountain of government and insurance money coming their way.
End government involvement, end insurance, and prices would come way, way down.
They would have to come down to what people could afford.
That's the way things worked in the past.
It's the way they should work now.
The same goes for the cost of housing and a college education.
Government got involved, and prices skyrocketed.
That may cover some of it, but there are things that are just too expensive for the free market, even before the markup. Especially when it comes to technology and certain pharm r and d.
They are not really getting it for free. Money is fungible. All or at least a portion of it is coming out of money that would likely be added to their salary. People often choose jobs for less money but good benefits over a job with more money but crappy benefits.
So the lady working at Wall Mart simply needs to accept $3.00 an hour to get health care?
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