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Old 03-25-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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This is horrible if true
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Old 03-25-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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Old 03-25-2017, 09:26 AM
 
Location: MS
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If you read the details they just shifted control of wildlife refuges back to the states. Who know better how to control there wildlife - the wildlife department in Alaska or a bureaucrat in D.C.?
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Old 03-25-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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I'll support State rights. However, refugees are suppose to be sanctuaries for animals to live untouched without human influence.
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Old 03-25-2017, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Texas
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If you read the details they just shifted control of wildlife refuges back to the states. Who know better how to control there wildlife - the wildlife department in Alaska or a bureaucrat in D.C.?
Who's cheaper for the oil companies to buy off - the wildlife department in Alaska or a bureaucrat in D.C.?

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Old 03-25-2017, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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I'll support State rights. However, refugees are suppose to be sanctuaries for animals to live untouched without human influence.
It's physically impossible to do this in the manner imagined by the most-sheltered among the environmental and animal-rights movements. The environment isn't "the enemy", but "human influence" is unavoidable in some forms. The goal is to identify and prevent the worst abuses, but we don't always agree on just which "threats" are the most serious.

The link in the original post seems to be from a site that sees most human activity, especially if done by a profit-seeking enterprise, as basically evil, and sport hunters as adrenaline-junkies only interested in killing; nothing in life is that simple. Remember that, for example, Native peoples also hunted animals for food, and most of the "animal rights" and environmental touchie-feelies would turn red, white and blue if they had to live under the conditions of an earlier day.

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Old 03-25-2017, 12:23 PM
 
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IF. "if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his arse"
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Old 03-26-2017, 08:13 AM
 
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It's physically impossible to do this in the manner imagined by the most-sheltered among the environmental and animal-rights movements. The environment isn't "the enemy", but "human influence" is unavoidable in some forms. The goal is to identify and prevent the worst abuses, but we don't always agree on just which "threats" are the most serious.

The link in the original post seems to be from a site that sees most human activity, especially if done by a profit-seeking enterprise, as basically evil, and sport hunters as adrenaline-junkies only interested in killing; nothing in life is that simple. Remember that, for example, Native peoples also hunted animals for food, and most of the "animal rights" and environmental touchie-feelies would turn red, white and blue if they had to live under the conditions of an earlier day.
I am okay with hunting as a means to survive and the individual utilizes the entirety of the animal in a respectful manner. Now a days really do not need hunting to survive as most food is readily available.
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Old 03-26-2017, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Planet earth
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I am okay with hunting as a means to survive and the individual utilizes the entirety of the animal in a respectful manner. Now a days really do not need hunting to survive as most food is readily available.
So go to the grocery store and buy your food. No one is forcing you to hunt. You have no right to any say in whether another person chooses to hunt for food or for sport.

It's really simple. If you don't like hunting, don't hunt. Just like if you don't like what's on TV, change the channel or turn the TV off.
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Old 03-26-2017, 08:45 AM
 
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I am okay with hunting as a means to survive and the individual utilizes the entirety of the animal in a respectful manner. Now a days really do not need hunting to survive as most food is readily available.
So, you want the government to pay people to go out and shoot deer instead of letting the people going out to shoot deer pay the government?
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