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Old 03-30-2017, 12:19 PM
 
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Trust me Einstein......the Internal Combustion Engine, & the Auto Industry weren't invented by Ivy Leaguers.
Do you think we'd be better off without the internet? That was invented at an Ivy League school.
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Old 03-30-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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For all the money being thrown to these schools for their BS "Research" ALL diseases and illnesses that have been around for centuries should be eradicated by now.
You've obviously never worked in research if you think diseases "should be eradicated by now". Biology is amazingly difficult and complex. Far more complex than our brains can understand on their own...We've only recently begun to try to model things computationally, and this is a very long-term thing.

It's hard to explain how hard this kind of scientific research is to someone that's never worked on biomedical research...just know that we're working hard, and recent technologies (mainly in genomics) have accelerated things TREMENDOUSLY.
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Old 03-30-2017, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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Do you think we'd be better off without the internet? That was invented at an Ivy League school.
When did MIT, UCLA, or the US Military (the 3 institutions claiming the invention) join the Ivy League?
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Old 03-30-2017, 04:02 PM
 
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Well, the debt isn't quite $20 trillion and half of it is money one part of the government owes the other. But on the bigger issue, the vast amount of federal spending is concentrated in five areas: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, defense and interest on the debt. The amount spent on research in universities is a rounding error in the federal budget. It just isn't what your government does in any scale.

So, if you want to erase the debt you are either talking about cuts to the big four (you can't cut interest); raising taxes or a combination of both or you have no idea what you are talking about. Cutting this research has a minuscule effect on the debt but a huge lose in needed research.
"Cutting this research has a minuscule effect on the debt but a huge lose in needed research."

Sorry, $42 BILLION is MNOT minuscule.

I read somewhere about some what of the ridiculous "research" programs are and they should have NEVER been created in the 1 st place.

"Take care of the pennies, and the dollars will take care of them selves.
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Old 03-30-2017, 04:15 PM
 
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Rich Liberal Elite Ivy League Schools being subsidized by the American Taxpayer

And that's why thy, the Democrats, the liberals don't like Trump. They don't want their gravy train to end.
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Old 03-31-2017, 08:31 AM
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You've obviously never worked in research if you think diseases "should be eradicated by now". Biology is amazingly difficult and complex. Far more complex than our brains can understand on their own...We've only recently begun to try to model things computationally, and this is a very long-term thing.

It's hard to explain how hard this kind of scientific research is to someone that's never worked on biomedical research...just know that we're working hard, and recent technologies (mainly in genomics) have accelerated things TREMENDOUSLY.
Yep.

People seem to operate under the impression that really complicated, difficult things are actually simple and easy.

People who've worked in science understand why you can work on a problem for years and have a four page paper to publish at the end of it if you're lucky. The problems are really difficult, the techniques to solve those problems can be difficult and time-consuming, and there is no manual telling you how to get from A to B.

They seem to think scientific research is as trivial as putting together IKEA furniture.
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Old 03-31-2017, 08:33 AM
 
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Bingo.

LOL, sure as heck the OP doesn't.
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Old 03-31-2017, 09:58 AM
 
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I don't get it... is OP saying only conservative non-elite schools should be subsidized by taxpayer money, or NO schools should be subsidized by taxpayer money?
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Old 03-31-2017, 10:00 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Id love to see a breakdown by department. I read somewhere some prof did a study on 50 shades of Gray.
That's not legitimate research?
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Old 03-31-2017, 10:08 AM
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I don't care if it goes towards recycling baby diapers. These colleges should not be receiving more funding than entire states.


Why?
Medical and scientific research gives us all sorts of things an improvements in quality of life plus fires the economy. What do the states give - apart from sucking in money? Especially those red states who receive more money than they provide in taxes.
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