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Old 03-31-2017, 08:13 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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It is heartbreaking, no doubt about it.

You are correct in that you need doctors in your corner. That's exactly what makes the difference.

So if you haul yourself to Minnesota or some other state with a bit of human kindness, you lose connection with your medical team and have to start over.

I have several friends and relatives in the medical field. They are swamped with people wanting them to vouch for one disability or another.

The orthopedic surgeon who treated me in the trauma ward was not a stranger to my case. He had seen me before and knew quite well what I had been through getting to where I was. It was the fact that I did gut so much pain and punishment without giving up that that galvanized him to write his report to SSA and get the other surgeon involved to do so as well. A well renowned plastic surgeon who repaired the serious damage the infection had done to my skin, muscle and vascular system in the leg. I spent two months in the hospital and another three before I could put any weight at all on the limb. They did right by me.


It is my lady who I love more than life going through the process now. She did the same as I did. Broke herself on the wheel, coping with injuries from a major accident she suffered at almost the exact same time I had mine. We often joke that our accidents are what put us on a collision course to being a couple. Her injuries were to her cervical and thoracic spine and her head. They didn't call it traumatic brain injury back then, nor did they know what the long term effects were. Combined with more recent trauma, I believe she is worse off than I. She has finally found a neurologist, a neurophsyciatrist and an orthopedic neck and spine specialist that are willing to help her. After over a year of fruitless searching.


Oh other doctors told her she is unable to work, but would not do the reports. It IS heartbreaking and seriously frustrating. I've had to watch her get worse at a rapid rate and when someone you love that much is going through that it can invoke a lot of anger at the system. I do not want her to get to the point I did before action is taken. Especially while seeing all these other people who are no where near as bad off getting handed to moon and stars because they either don't speak English and have 6 kids or have destroyed themselves with drugs and alcohol. The fakers and parasites chap me as much or more as anyone. There has GOT to be a better way.


Now that she has the right team of docs (long time coming as that was) we are seeing progression. But I've wiped away barrels of tears getting here. I know that I won't hesitate not a millisecond to take her into the hospital should she become emergent. which could easily happen. She still pushes to hard and she could end up falling over as easily as I did. Spinal and head issues are seriously unpredictable. That would be the point where someone is going to get unbusy quick fast and in a hurry. And fried out waste cases and others who just want a free ride are going to get unceremoniously tossed into corners if they get in the way. I do pray that something real and meaningful gets done with this system. And treating everyone like parasites tarring with the same brush is NOT the answer.
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Old 04-01-2017, 07:10 AM
 
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No way. I don't believe this because we all know that this stuff can only happen in the inner city.

Rural folks in "real America" wouldn't do this. They have too much honor and virtue.
That's right!

The American Heartland is pure, pristine and unspoiled by the smell of foreign foods. All the women are strong, all the men are good looking, and all the children are above average.
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Old 04-01-2017, 07:59 AM
 
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I did not say that those on public assistance voted for Trump. There is no way of knowing that.

What I wrote is that those on government benefits often spout off with Trump/Republican talk about moochers and so forth.

Also, the myth that poor people vote for Democrats to get benefits is ridiculous. The poorest states and poorest counties typically vote Republican and definitely voted for Trump.

If the majority of people are poor in an area and the majority of people vote for Trump, then it stands to reason that at least some of the poor people voted for him or else he would have lost.
Why do people continue to spread this myth that has been debunked 10,000 times?

Democrats get more of a boost from poor voters than Republicans do. This has been so for decades. As always with people that don't understand statistics they don't understand how to analyze, and take into account percentages.

Rural counties might only have 1,000 people in them whereas an urban county might have a million people in it. 20 percent in the rural county isn't the same as 20 percent in the urban county. You're looking at a huge population numbers difference.
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Old 04-01-2017, 07:59 AM
 
Location: USA
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Having grown in a small town in PA many residents found it more profitable to collect from the state than to work whatever part time minimum wage service job you could find. Keep in mind this was an economically depressed place where half the town was competing for one minimum wage job at a Pizza Hut or the corner market.

The only real option was to move (like I did)
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Old 04-01-2017, 08:07 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Why do people continue to spread this myth that has been debunked 10,000 times?

Democrats get more of a boost from poor voters than Republicans do. This has been so for decades. As always with people that don't understand statistics they don't understand how to analyze, and take into account percentages.
I posted the Maxwell Poll percentages by political party. Care to comment?

What do you believe the reason is for 2+ times as many Dem voters needing disability-based/means-tested public assistance than Republican voters?
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Old 04-01-2017, 08:19 AM
 
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I posted the Maxwell Poll percentages by political party. Care to comment?

What do you believe the reason is for 2+ times as many Dem voters needing disability-based/means-tested public assistance than Republican voters?
I don't have time to read mental midget threads like this. The overall theory that people in red states suck up the system more than blue states is ridiculous because again you have to take into account population differences.

There's counties in my state with only 7k people in them. 7k people in the entire county. Think about that. That's like one street in some cities.

Also I find it interesting that the same people that think this, have no problem with illegal immigrants costing the country billions of dollars every year.

You would have to look at the disability issue on a case by case basis and separate it into categories because there's the categories related to mental illness and then there's the physical disabilities.

The reason a lot of people are on it is because they're most likely people that actually worked and had jobs that destroyed their body. I know a guy that's a postal worker whose back is destroyed from delivering mail in an urban area with tons of hills and steps. It's a job most people couldn't even do. He's also ex-military and right now he's at the point where he has a hard time walking.

Slobs that don't work or never had a job where they weren't keyboard warriors lose the right to throw stones at glass houses. People that live in rural areas generally have harder jobs than city people since the city is where all of the desk jobs are.
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Old 04-01-2017, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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Disability check is the new welfare
Disability check IS welfare. I fixed it for ya. Then again. What else are these folks going to do ? Have you seen those towns? Have you seen what they put in the shopping cart at Walmart? Have you seen the sheer size of these people? It's part of the culture
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Old 04-01-2017, 08:29 AM
 
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Disability check IS welfare. I fixed it for ya. Then again. What else are these folks going to do ? Have you seen those towns? Have you seen what they put in the shopping cart at Walmart? Have you seen the sheer size of these people? It's part of the culture
Yeah sure.... because only rural areas have Wal-Mart slobs.

It's great when people find a thread to channel their prejudices against people in certain parts of the country.

It just shows what the lefties really think...they believe what Hillary said when she called them deplorables. That's their values system.
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Old 04-01-2017, 08:31 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I don't have time to read mental midget threads like this.
The Campbell Public Affairs Institute in the Maxwell School of Syracuse University and Pew Research are "mental midgets?"

No wonder society in the US is in a downward spiral. /SMH

There's a reason Dem voters are 2+ times more likely to be on disability and/or means-tested public assistance than Republican voters. Would like to see some refreshing honesty for a change and see anyone admit why that is (more than one reason, BTW).
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Old 04-01-2017, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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I don't have time to read mental midget threads like this. The overall theory that people in red states suck up the system more than blue states is ridiculous because again you have to take into account population differences.

There's counties in my state with only 7k people in them. 7k people in the entire county. Think about that. That's like one street in some cities.

Also I find it interesting that the same people that think this, have no problem with illegal immigrants costing the country billions of dollars every year.

You would have to look at the disability issue on a case by case basis and separate it into categories because there's the categories related to mental illness and then there's the physical disabilities.

The reason a lot of people are on it is because they're most likely people that actually worked and had jobs that destroyed their body. I know a guy that's a postal worker whose back is destroyed from delivering mail in an urban area with tons of hills and steps. It's a job most people couldn't even do. He's also ex-military and right now he's at the point where he has a hard time walking.

Slobs that don't work or never had a job where they weren't keyboard warriors lose the right to throw stones at glass houses. People that live in rural areas generally have harder jobs than city people since the city is where all of the desk jobs are.
Yeah ok......... I have lived in the south as well as Metro North. Nobody has it harder than us up here. It's a rat race . We work hard . Damn hard. And we don't ride carts in Walmart because we are too large to walk. Welfare is welfare. Period. If your goal in life is to get a welfare check then It doesn't matter what part of the country of political party you belong to. And for the record those slobs don't even bother to vote. The urban poor in the projects don't vote. The poor whites in rural areas don't vote.
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