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Old 05-04-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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BULL FL BLUE CROSS made about 480 million last year. that is a nice bit of cash. FL is a tough market and they are doing great there, thus it is NOT FAILING when states want it to work.

FL is a SWING state the leadership is GOP but they knew if they broke it they would be out, thus they worked to make it work.

your bs about ACA not working is FAKE NEWS. states that fight it, refuse the money it does not work. States that embraced it, it worked. Yes it could be better, and any sane party would just fix it, not destroy it on purpose.
It will never be better as long as insurance companies are posting record profits, Cigna, Aetna, etc. How do you think they get those profits? By "not" paying for healthcare.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Trump campaigned on the promise "to replace Obamacare with something wonderful that will take care of everybody and the government is going to pay for it".
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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Trumpcare it is. Psychotic Trump and his GOP goons will ruin healthcare as they did the economy back in 2007/2008. Dems will be reelected to fix the mess republicans will inevitably create.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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When the CBO scores this in a week or so, there's gonna be a lot of homina homina homina. If the CBO scores this as adding to the deficit, the Freedom Caucus has egg on its face. If the CBO scores it as millions losing coverage, then the Tuesday Group got burnt.

What was the rush to pass this before the CBO score???
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:11 PM
 
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It will never be better as long as insurance companies are posting record profits, Cigna, Aetna, etc.
Trump fussed about that and making drug companies accountable -- baloney -- he lied -- he lies...and he thinks we are to be impressed because he knows how much rebarb and concrete a project needs....so does every other contractor with a grade 8 education. (Not that contractors only have grade 8 -- some are highly skilled but it takes experience not intelligence).

It's a nice skill to have if you are building a road - not a country.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:11 PM
 
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I didn't sign up for it for years and fudged my taxes to avoid the penalty. I only did for this one year to get everything checked out and make sure I don't have any problems. I ended up with a pretty sweet plan. Like I said next year I will most likely go back to not having it. I'm not paying 200 dollars a month f that.
Interesting. So there is still a decent chance that even though you signed up we still lose money.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:12 PM
 
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And I'm sure all those that now have religious freedom will be saying extra prayers for all of those that will be denied insurance, unable to get good health care because we know those religious people are so caring and loving and compassionate.
Sorry?
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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Nice work coming together on something for once GOP. Now improve on that, this barely passed. Finally then actually did something they said they would
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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What did he win, exactly? You do understand this still has to be voted on in the Senate, right?

Yes. But it feels good to know things are progressing... after Libs constantly bashing President Trump about his new healthcare plan. (no plan will be perfect but what a mess to clean up with the ACA...) This obamacare was a debacle and a failure and a disaster.. Obamacare should have never happened...thus we would not be here discussing trying to kill it.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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The house is passing Trumpcare now because they don't want anyone to see analysis by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) about how bad it will be. Even employer-provided plans are at risk. To appreciate how bad the bill is, realize that congress exempted themselves from it.

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