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Old 05-08-2017, 05:02 AM
 
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Without a doubt this has to be the biggest scam ever perpetrated. I think Ponzi would be proud!!!


https://www.usatoday.com/story/weath...low/100971018/

Another Arctic ice panic over as world temperatures plummet

 
Old 05-08-2017, 05:06 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Have to say, I love the lesser drought this year.

https://neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov/csb/index.php?section=234

better link for the sea ice and not premium content you have to sign up for.
 
Old 05-08-2017, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Without a doubt this has to be the biggest scam ever perpetrated. I think Ponzi would be proud!!!


https://www.usatoday.com/story/weath...low/100971018/

Another Arctic ice panic over as world temperatures plummet


This is why they changed their phraseology from Global Warming to Global Climate Change....you can't win.

I would like science to advise us the implications but unfortunately the Global Warming/Climate Change fanatics have prevented that by doctoring data and making wild claims that are proven false time and again.
 
Old 05-08-2017, 05:45 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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This is why they changed their phraseology from Global Warming to Global Climate Change....you can't win.

I would like science to advise us the implications but unfortunately the Global Warming/Climate Change fanatics have prevented that by doctoring data and making wild claims that are proven false time and again.
Thusly I like raw data. With all the alarmism I would love to see a chart that shows temps of every day over the last 100 years on a chart (dot plot colored by the decade) for cities that have not grown much (increase of the heat island effect) to see real trend.
 
Old 05-08-2017, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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There is an ocean current that warms western Europe, Britain, and the eastern United states. It brings warm water up from the south and is responsible for why Great Britian has the mild climate it does. despite being at such a high latitude.

People were concerned about this stream being harmed by water from melting glaciers all the way back in 2005:

This conveyor belt process "brings heat northward, gives it up to the atmosphere, and we benefit in England from having the winds pick up this heat and blow ... relatively warmer air over us," said oceanographer Harry Bryden, one of the study's authors. "So that's what gives us a good climate even in wintertime in England."

Bryden said that climate models suggest that if the Atlantic Conveyor shut down, temperatures in northwest Europe could drop by 4 to 6 degrees Celsius, or about 10 degrees Fahrenheit, in 20 years.

The Atlantic Conveyor works because the cold water of the North Atlantic gets saltier and more dense, causing it to sink to the bottom of the ocean and flow south.

Warmer surface water then flows north from the tropics until it gets cold and sinks Then the process starts over.

"Overall, there was a reduction in the net northward transport of warm upper waters, and a reduction also in the net amount of southward transport of cold, deep waters," Bryden said.

Scientists have predicted that global warming could disrupt the current. Melting ice caps would add freshwater to the ocean, which would reduce seawater salinity, which in turn reduces seawater density. Less dense water would reduce the flow.

CNN.com - Study: Current that warms Europe weakening - Dec 1, 2005

Researchers at the National Oceanography Centre in Southampton, England, found that the flow of warm ocean currents toward northwest Europe has declined by 30 percent since the 1950s
"Mini Ice Age" May Be Coming Soon, Sea Study Warns

So yes, things could get a lot colder...for Europe, if that's the root of it.

Or maybe it's because the sun might be decreasing its output for awhile:

A scientist who claims waning solar activity in the next 15 years will trigger what some are calling a mini ice age has revived talk about the effects of man-made versus natural disruptors to Earth's climate. Is a Mini Ice Age Coming? 'Maunder Minimum' Spurs Controversy

According to the Royal Astronomical Society (RAS):

A new model of the Sun’s solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun’s 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the ‘mini ice age’ that began in 1645. (source)

Zharkova and her team came up with the model using a method called “principal component analysis” of the magnetic field observations, from the Wilcox Solar Observatory in California. Looking forward to the next few solar cycles, her model predicts that from 2030 to 2040 there will be cause for a significant reduction in solar activity, which again, will lead to a mini ice age. According to Zharkova:

http://www.collective-evolution.com/...ing-very-soon/

I don't know. I don't pay enough attention to this stuff to know.

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Old 05-08-2017, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking More loony climate change denial?

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Without a doubt this has to be the biggest scam ever perpetrated. I think Ponzi would be proud!!!


https://www.usatoday.com/story/weath...low/100971018/

Another Arctic ice panic over as world temperatures plummet
In other right wing news:

The earth is flat and 4000 years old.

Ho-hum...

Carry on.

 
Old 05-08-2017, 05:58 AM
 
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In other right wing news:

The earth is flat and 4000 years old.

Ho-hum...

Carry on.
the board comedian woke up from his stupor---good morning!
 
Old 05-08-2017, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Without a doubt this has to be the biggest scam ever perpetrated. I think Ponzi would be proud!!!


https://www.usatoday.com/story/weath...low/100971018/

Another Arctic ice panic over as world temperatures plummet
Your articles are sorely lacking to say the least, 17 year low for drought in the US and Arctic temperatures declining since December and you're drawing conclusions? So we throw out the world wide trends for the last 100 years because of a weather report.

One of your links is Notalotofpeopleknowthat and you expect to be taken seriously. Paul Homewood is a great and credible scientific source of information, why use NASA when you have him.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/author/n...eopleknowthat/

Quote:
Drought in the U.S. fell to a record low this week, with just 6.1% of the lower 48 states currently experiencing such dry conditions, federal officials announced Thursday.

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Old 05-08-2017, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking Cheers

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the board comedian woke up from his stupor---good morning!
You're upset.

Take this opportunity to smile.

 
Old 05-08-2017, 06:15 AM
 
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You're upset.
Upset about you....now thats funny...
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