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Old 05-10-2017, 07:56 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Except that it is socialism that dictates to the people their liberties.

It is like you people just stepped out of the 1984 book.
We have capitalism here now and its not doing such a hot job of making sure people are able to make a living with a decent wage....No better than Socialism IMO. REAL socialism means people helping their neighbor out where you don't have to have a government FORCING you to give items away....its sad that people need to be FORCED to be kind to their neighbor etc.
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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The republicans want us all poor and to be controlled by a few rich people.
If I recall correctly, the various "characters" behind this anti-human/pro-robotics agenda are almost all Leftists

Mark Zuckerberg?
George Soros?
Elon Musk?
Steve Jobs?
Bill Gates?
The Google CEO/founder guys?
Etc??

Ummmm yeah, these^ guys are all Leftists/Liberal types It should be noted that most of the actual robotics/automation/artificial intelligence companies are in Leftist "stronghold states" such such as Cali and Massachusetts.

Republicans/conservative types just wanna be left alone, it's these^ Liberal tech-elites and their giant corporations "shoving" all this robotics, automation, anti-humanism, 24/7 spying programs, tracking-your-every-move smartphones, social media crap, etc etc down our throats
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Old 05-13-2017, 07:26 PM
 
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Here's another "angle" to consider: what if Universal Basic Income (UBI) is really just BS propaganda disseminated by the powers-that-be/billionaire class/elites to prevent "mass panic" and unrest from the general population?? What if it's all a fairy-tale and there is, in fact, no "real" solution to the mass poverty/mass unemployment that automation and AI will likely create?

It's plausible, especially when you think about what "gives" money it's value to begin with. Those green pieces of paper only have "value" because people believe that they do, on top of the scarcity effect (most people don't have many green pieces of paper, and so the green pieces of paper are perceived to be scarce).

So if you suddenly gave everyone a fixed monthly check of "free money" there's the possibility that this could "devalue" the money itself, cause lots of inflation, or who-knows-what other unintended consequences Then there is also the question of what will happen to huge swathes of the "regular" economy: if everyone is on a "fixed" UBI monthly income, will there be any discretionary money left over after "needs" (housing, food, utilities, etc) to actually spend into the "regular" economy/grow the economy? Or will we all be living in tiny/cramped government housing, eating government-supplied GMO food slop, getting micro-chipped, etc as a "condition" of receiving our UBI checks?

This is all interesting stuff to think about

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