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Old 05-17-2017, 02:43 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Regarding it being legal for him to fire Comey...

Yes, and it's legal for us to delete our own files, but not when under legal investigation. Then it's obstruction of justice.
someone deleted files? when did this happen?

aside from the IRS/teaparty thing a couple years ago that is.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertw.../#39c0d97e5b26

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Old 05-17-2017, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I wouldn't miss Trump. He is a brash crude man who is like a bull in a china shop. Makes enemies out of friends. Wants to make the Presidency a dictatorship and wants all his family involved in our countries business. Blind trust? I doubt it. No income taxes provided. Doesn't follow protocol. He's a disaster. Knew the Russian thing would bite him in the butt....


"Russian thing"?




What's a Russian thing?
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Old 05-17-2017, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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It's a good thing we don't make it a drinking game.

Every time a liberal cries "Impeachment", we would have to take a shot.

We'd be three sheets to the wind for 8 solid years.

And yes, the memo story is absolute bs. Again, IF Trump had actually said that, Comey's duty is to report to AG right away. Not doing so is a felony. He would face up to 3 years in prison and lose his license to practice law. And yet the left actually believes that someone would do that to themselves.

Remember what Trump said earlier? He said that Comey better be sure that Trump had no tapes of their conversations before he started "leaking" his version to the media.

No one legitimate has seen the memo. Some random "associate" doesn't count since they are not named and have not come out to identify themselves and show the memo. Nor has Comey.

Take a shot, righties.
There was no Attorney General at that time. There was an interim AG, appointed by Obama, Sally Yates, and we all saw just how long she lasted. Comey was, until Sessions was confirmed, the highest law official in the nation at the time he wrote the memo in question. There was no one he could report to.

And Sessions recused himself once he was sworn in, so even then, Comey had no superior to report to in this particular matter. So he faces no criminal charge or legal penalty for anything he may have done in that period.

There are always gaps in the chain of command with every Administration change-over, but this is the first time I can recall when something that may be a criminal offense has arisen during the period when one administration is leaving while another is entering.

The Director of the FBI is always #3 on our topmost legal totem pole, but it's very unusual for him to be #1 at any time. This may be the first in our history.

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Old 05-17-2017, 03:25 PM
 
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"Russian thing"?




What's a Russian thing?
A matrushka doll, in which one after another is revealed as the lids come off.

Stay tuned. We haven't seen the inner-most "doll" yet, though we can hear it rattling around.
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Old 05-17-2017, 04:10 PM
 
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They are working out the testimony appearance for Comey now. Public/private or a combo. At that time, the memo(s) will be presented AND discussed.

Curtains for Donnie Boy.
Actually, it's more likely to be curtains for Comey, seeing as how he had an absolute affirmative duty to immediately inform the DOJ of any attempt to obstruct justice (18 USC 4; 28 USC 1368). If he knew about an attempt to obstruct justice and failed to report it to the Department of Justice, he is guilty of a felony, with all of the appropriate penalties, possibly including disbarment, thereto appertaining.

So, when Comey testifies, he's going to have to explain why he committed a felony by going to the trouble to write a memo concerning a purported instance of obstruction of justice, then failing to send the memo at the time, in violation of 18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1368.

There's really only two possibilities here.

1) Comey didn't believe at the time that his conversation with Trump constituted an attempt to obstruct justice, and only belatedly (some 75 days later) came to that belief after he was fired; or

2) Comey thinks he can explain his way out of his commission of at least one flagrant felony. I suppose he might be able to do that; he did a lot of verbal tap-dancing around Hillary Clinton's absurd level of criminal corruption. But it's still going to look and sound like the lie it will certainly be.

No matter what he says in his testimony, either he's going to have to lie about the circumstances surrounding this alleged memo or he's going to have to lie to the Senate Committee about why he violated several federal statutes in failing to report obstruction of justice.

No wonder this guy isn't FBI Director any more. You can't believe a thing he says.

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Old 05-17-2017, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Should have been done to Barry many years ago.
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Old 05-17-2017, 04:13 PM
 
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Regarding it being legal for him to fire Comey...

Yes, and it's legal for us to delete our own files, but not when under legal investigation. Then it's obstruction of justice.
Only true if it were under CRIMINAL legal investigation.

In a civil case, feel free to delete whatever you want.
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Old 05-17-2017, 04:16 PM
 
Location: PGI
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It's on. Why? The press wants a scalp and here's how it's working.
You do know the moment you blindly support a leader is the moment you surrender your freedom, don't you?
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Old 05-17-2017, 04:19 PM
 
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There was no Attorney General at that time. There was an interim AG, appointed by Obama, Sally Yates, and we all saw just how long she lasted. Comey was, until Sessions was confirmed, the highest law official in the nation at the time he wrote the memo in question. There was no one he could report to.

And Sessions recused himself once he was sworn in, so even then, Comey had no superior to report to in this particular matter. So he faces no criminal charge or legal penalty for anything he may have done in that period.

There are always gaps in the chain of command with every Administration change-over, but this is the first time I can recall when something that may be a criminal offense has arisen during the period when one administration is leaving while another is entering.

The Director of the FBI is always #3 on our topmost legal totem pole, but it's very unusual for him to be #1 at any time. This may be the first in our history.
False on multiple accounts.

Dana Boente was the acting AG at the time.

Sessions recused himself only from Russian issues.

In government, there aren't allowed any gaps in the chain of command - someone is always in command!
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Old 05-17-2017, 04:35 PM
 
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You do know the moment you blindly support a leader is the moment you surrender your freedom, don't you?
Since you don't appear to post here often let me tell you something I've said many times.

Never fall in love with a politician. They will always break your heart. I learned my lesson with the peanut farmer.

If Trump really did just half of what you folks claimed, I'd be clamoring for Pence. But none of it makes any sense.

Trump is a hugely sucessful businessman. And a billionaire. None of what the MSM is accusing him off makes any sense. Unless of course, you are a bitter, whacked out lib just determined to ignore the fact that not only was Hillary a bad candidate, she wasn't very popular. And whether you like it or not, people were sick of eight years of Obama.

There's something odd going on and it isn't Trump. Every article in the paper and cable news story is a bitter manifestation of the Democrat's hatred for Trump and their despair at being rejected after eight years of poor governance.
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