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Old 07-02-2017, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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There's considerable evidence that Trump received financing from Russian interests, despite Trump's denials (few Americans trust Trump apart from his Trumpie groupies).
So, which link discusses this evidence? I looked at the link above this paragraph and the one below. The one above is about the guy that lied to Pence and got canned immediately from Trump's Cabinet. If anything, that shows that Trump will not put up with people in his administration who lie and possibly collude with Russia.

Show us a link that supports what you say, otherwise you are FAKE POSTING!

 
Old 07-02-2017, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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So, which link discusses this evidence? I looked at the link above this paragraph and the one below. The one above is about the guy that lied to Pence and got canned immediately from Trump's Cabinet. If anything, that shows that Trump will not put up with people in his administration who lie and possibly collude with Russia.

Show us a link that supports what you say, otherwise you are FAKE POSTING!
There are plenty of reports of Russians backing Trump financially; the real issue is whether you would believe them or scream "fake news!"
 
Old 07-02-2017, 06:02 AM
 
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This time around...

Ryan, McConnell, Gowdy, Nuñes, ... are complicit in the POTUS's attempt to derail the investigation of a foreign adversary's involvement in our election and in Trump's administration.

Covering up political skulduggery is one thing.

Covering up treason is another.
Maybe those people you mention have just not been shown any evidence of wrongdoing at this point. So far, the investigation is proceeding on statements by people who were upset that they lost an election. It could be they know more than the general public about how this is a total waste of time and tax dollars to pursue. Only the Democrats, who have something to gain, are pursuing this.

In Watergate, a lot of Republicans saw that there was evidence and supported the investigation. Looking back over the last 40 some years, whenever a Republican was disgracing the party, many of the party members dealt with it respectfully and got rid of him. During the same period, whenever a Democrat was disgracing his or her own party, it seemed the whole party circled the wagons and supported them.

There is your difference in a nutshell.
 
Old 07-02-2017, 06:03 AM
 
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There are plenty of reports of Russians backing Trump financially; the real issue is whether you would believe them or scream "fake news!"
Link, like I asked for?
 
Old 07-02-2017, 06:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Cruzincat View Post
So, which link discusses this evidence? I looked at the link above this paragraph and the one below. The one above is about the guy that lied to Pence and got canned immediately from Trump's Cabinet. If anything, that shows that Trump will not put up with people in his administration who lie and possibly collude with Russia.

Show us a link that supports what you say, otherwise you are FAKE POSTING!
How about Eric Trump?

Eric Trump Reportedly Bragged About Access to $100 Million in Russian | Vanity Fair

Eric Trump said Trump golf courses got $100 million in funding from Russia - Business Insider

Or, how about President Trump himself?

https://www.theatlantic.com/business...terest/526185/

Remember when Mr. Trump appeared on David Letterman in 2013 and said "I've done a lot of business with the Russians"?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR_S...tu.be&t=14m44s

Now, having done business in the past with Russians does not prove that Mr. Trump colluded with said Russians last year. However, the man himself, and his son, claimed business ties.
 
Old 07-02-2017, 06:42 AM
 
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Lot of talk about how Nixon won, so who cared.

Nixon refused a Congressional subpoena for evidence.

Folks were fired.

Nixon kept on governing as I recall. I don't remember him calling the press a bunch of liars. Did he?
 
Old 07-02-2017, 06:52 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Remember when Mr. Trump appeared on David Letterman in 2013 and said "I've done a lot of business with the Russians"?
A businessman does business with Russians. Hmm.. I'm trying to see what's wrong with this picture. Can't find anything.

Still a big nothing burger.
 
Old 07-02-2017, 06:56 AM
 
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...If anything, that shows that Trump will not put up with people in his administration who lie and possibly collude with Russia...
This is a lie.

Trump did not cut Flynn loose immediately upon learning that Flynn was a national security risk.

Nor did Trump cut him loose as soon as he discovered he was lying.
 
Old 07-02-2017, 06:58 AM
 
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A businessman does business with Russians. Hmm.. I'm trying to see what's wrong with this picture. Can't find anything.
...
Some folks can't find their butt with both hands.

Doesn't mean it isn't there.
 
Old 07-02-2017, 07:22 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Cruzincat View Post
Maybe those people you mention have just not been shown any evidence of wrongdoing at this point. So far, the investigation is proceeding on statements by people who were upset that they lost an election. It could be they know more than the general public about how this is a total waste of time and tax dollars to pursue. Only the Democrats, who have something to gain, are pursuing this.

In Watergate, a lot of Republicans saw that there was evidence and supported the investigation. Looking back over the last 40 some years, whenever a Republican was disgracing the party, many of the party members dealt with it respectfully and got rid of him. During the same period, whenever a Democrat was disgracing his or her own party, it seemed the whole party circled the wagons and supported them.

There is your difference in a nutshell.
No it is not okay to block congressional hearings/investigations because you refuse to recognize the evidence right in front of your eyes.

Looking back over the last fifty years, every time a Republican was disgracing the party, took a while to get things straightened out.

Just to keep things in perspective here regarding Republican administrations.

Over the past fifty some years -- 89 criminal convictions of Republicans versus 1 for the Democrats.


Obama - 8yrs in office. 0 criminal indictments. 0 convictions. 0 prison sentences.

Bush, George W. - 8yrs in office. 16 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 9 prison sentences.

Clinton - 8yrs in office. 2 criminal indictments. 1 conviction. 1 prison sentence.

Bush, George H. W. - 4yrs in office. 1 indictment. 1 conviction. 1 prison sentence.

Reagan - 8yrs in office. 26 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 8 prison sentences.

Carter - 4yrs in office. 1 indictment. 0 convictions and 0 prison sentences.

Ford - 2 1/2 yrs in office. 1 indictment. 1 conviction. 1 prison sentence.

Nixon - 6yrs in office. 76 criminal indictments. 55 convictions. 15 prison sentences.

Johnson - 5yrs in office. 0 indictments. 0 convictions. 0 prison sentences.

Democrats had a total of 3 executive branch officials indicted with 1 conviction and 1 prison sentence.

Republicans have had a total of 120 criminal indictments of executive branch officials. 89 criminal convictions. 34 prison sentences.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/...ump-Appointees

Republicans have been, by far, the most criminally corrupt party to hold the office of the presidency.
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