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Notre Dame is still mostly Roman Catholic, something which Pence - the former gov. of IN - knows quite well. He's also likely aware that ND students broke up KKK marches in downtown South Bend (the city next to ND) back in the '20s, when the KKK was a power in the state of IN (the KKK was a statewide party, & I believe held the gov.'s office & a majority of the Legislature @ the time - they managed to shoot themselves in the foot - a widely publicized kidnap/statutory rape case, as I recall. & of course the Klan was dead set against Roman Catholics, Jews, bankers, furriners, Socialists, intellectuals, Modernity, organized labor, literate people in general). One of those set-tos was fairly boisterous - you can look the episode up in your favorite browser.
Yah, VP Pence has shown much more restraint than candidate Trump did, or that Pres. Trump has to date, for that matter. I remember that Trump opened his candidacy by insulting Hispanics, Mexicans, immigrants & so on as rapists, drug dealers, murderers, & then he got nasty. Pence did stand by Trump on the campaign trail, & by his presence essentially endorsed Trump as a good man, & possibly a Christian - he may have said as much explicitly, I don't recall. If Pence did, I'm sure it's on tape somewhere.
& no, the commencement wasn't set up as a debate. It was a chance for Pence to address a kinda captive audience - but ND takes a muscular view of Christianity - & the entire Roman Catholic parochial school system, & the various Roman Catholic universities, colleges & so on in the US were set up because the religious community felt that the US public schools K-12 were aiming to assimilate & acculturate the Catholic children into a WASPish role, & so extinguish Catholicism as a distinct belief system here.
Pence gave a commencement speech at Grove City College during which Pence commended Trump's leadership. (video)
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Vice President Mike Pence urged graduating students at a Pennsylvania college to become leaders and cited President Donald Trump’s “leadership and perseverance” as an example.
A handful of college students, the majority of the graduates stayed seated to listen, get up from their seats and leave the auditorium in protest of Pence and this makes the national news? Why?
The Press attempts to make every slight of the Trump administration no matter how inconsequential a major deal. The Press embarrasses itself daily with their petty antics.
Actually it was the students who were embarrassing themselves. I am sure they made their parents proud.
Let's hope these children can cope with a tough boss, because if you cannot handle differing opinions in the workplace there are plenty of others willing to take that job.
They should listen to his speech regardless of their opinion, graduation should not be used as a platform to protest and insult the speaker. If these students felt that badly about the speaker they should have just stayed home. They also show disrespect to their own university by their actions.
Not sure that is true, please provide a link to that claim. People also receive a federal tax refund without paying federal taxes....do you think that is right or is that socialism at its finest.
Let's hope these children can cope with a tough boss, because if you cannot handle differing opinions in the workplace there are plenty of others willing to take that job.
We're not talking about a tough boss or differing opinions.
We're talking about governor that that harmed public education, health care, women's rights, the economy, reproductive rights...
"Our members lived in South Bend when Mike Pence was governor," South Bend Equality said in a statement. "We know all too well how his policies endangered or caused direct harm to public education, health care, women's rights, the environment, LGBTQ individuals, immigrants and refugees, reproductive rights, local infrastructure, the economy of our state, and more."
We're talking about the Vice President in an administration that pushed a bill that would mean millions of Americans would lose their health insurance and health care.
The list goes on.
If these graduates ever find themselves with a boss like Pence, they 'd be smart to find a more reputable organization to work in.
I'm betting several WH staff members are contemplating that at this very moment.
Let's hope these children can cope with a tough boss, because if you cannot handle differing opinions in the workplace there are plenty of others willing to take that job.
If your boss tells you that you need treated for being gay, he isn't going to be your boss for long.
They were expecting about a hundred to walk out. How many actually did?
Whether it was 1 or 1,000, it only matters that some people are standing up for their convictions and doing what they think is right. Don't know if someone posted this video, but here it is:
I'm a pretty non-confrontational person so I would probably never walk out on anyone; however, I get what this is about. Notre Dame is a Catholic University and the students don't feel that this administration (and Pence) are reflecting Catholic values.
I don't know that the graduating ND students felt that the Trump admin should reflect Roman Catholic values - given the preferential option for the poor in Church doctrine, that would be an exceedingly slim - perhaps even forlorn - hope. However, candidate Trump went on & on about suspending immigration & refugees from Middle Eastern countries, putting up a border wall between the US & Mexico, cancelling/renegotiating NAFTA with Canada & Mexico, & accusing China of stealing jobs, & so forth.
What the students & most voters would expect is that Trump & co. reflect Christian values, @ least. & indeed, I always understood that Pence's value to the Trump campaign was to stand beside Trump & invoke our Heavenly Father, as a kind of symbol that Trump was @ least nominally a Christian - no matter his rhetoric nor business dealings nor his messy personal life.
That's the rub - VP Pence - as a former IN gov. - is a known quantity @ ND, @ least among the people who pay attention to statewide politics. The discontent with Pence is (my opinion) that in standing by Trump as a marker of Trump's virtue, Pence was selling us all (& himself?) a bill of goods.
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Double-plus ungood
