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Old 05-23-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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Saw this on 60Minutes this evening about some churches and synagogues defying President Trumps Executive Order and harboring illegals. As a Christian that is middle of the road politically I think it's interesting because it goes against the stereotype that all Christians are right winged. I'm not sure how I feel about this at the moment but was interesting nonetheless. Link below...

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsne...ion-crackdown/
Criminals will be criminals.

There is nothing middle of the road. There are MANY means for illegals to seek refuge in their own country (are you so ignorant that you do not know that churches go to other countries to provide relief?).

Spew your propaganda elsewhere. You obviously have NO clue or are deviously seeking to misinform.

Run along!
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Old 05-23-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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ms13, is just your scary boogeyman and hardly exists in the greater scheme of things.

It is just yet another red herring to distract while the racists try to make the USA White again.


delighted to see it is failing. I am delighted to welcome new arrivals to OUR nation , i am happy to see them come here raise families and enjoy a better life. And we have plenty of room, it is a very large nation and not too populated compared to much of the world.

I will use my influence, and monies to keep people coming here.
MS-13 hardly exists? Really? Where do you live? Tell that to those of us who live in my area. Tell that to the family whose son got gunned down at the school bus stop by these gang members because he wouldn't join the gang. Tell that to my family out in LI were many atrocities by MS-13 have been committed.

"Make the USA white again"? Where do you get this stuff? The USA has never been all white

We, as a nation, welcome legal immigrants. When one considers how long it took them to come here and how many hoops they had to jump through, I hold them in great respect.

Illegal aliens, no matter where in the world they come from, no matter how they got here (sneaking across a border or overstaying a visa) have no business here and are not welcome. They all need to leave.

We have plenty of room? All those empty spaces you see are not all on buildable land. Many don't have enough natural resources to support large populations. Those random homes you see in the middle of the desert have to have potable water trucked in for them.

You realize that we allow in 1 million legal immigrants per year into this country, correct? That number is not indefinitely sustainable as we don't have unlimited potable water or buildable land.

When you say you will use your "influence and monies to keep people coming here" I hope you mean by using the legal route. Otherwise, you would be aiding and abetting criminal activities.
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Old 05-23-2017, 03:08 PM
 
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I agree with this.
You agree with amnesty for millions of illegals? Why should we amnesty lawbreakers? Amnesty for illegals is a slap in the face to those who came here legally---are you okay with that?
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Old 05-23-2017, 03:13 PM
 
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You agree with amnesty for millions of illegals? Why should we amnesty lawbreakers? Amnesty for illegals is a slap in the face to those who came here legally---are you okay with that?
You are never going to deport millions. Every person caught get their day in court. So what this would do is clog the courts for decades.

No, you have to do things to get people to leave on their own. Go after the employers.
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Old 05-23-2017, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Meh...... How many illegals can a church possibly hide?
Fact is, there are far, far too many illegal aliens living in the US. Some of them may survive the Trump presidency and remain in the US.
But most will be leaving.
Doubtful.
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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How many are you personally housing for free in YOUR home? Have you tossed open your doors to all comers? No? Why not, it's the "christian thing to do"...
This is the most tired argument that anti-immigration people make. Opening up the country and opening up a house are, obviously, two completely different concepts. You haven't open up your house; he hasn't opened up his. Are immigrants knocking on your door and asking to come in? If not, it is a completely moot argument that you're making.
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:08 PM
 
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Criminals will be criminals.

There is nothing middle of the road. There are MANY means for illegals to seek refuge in their own country (are you so ignorant that you do not know that churches go to other countries to provide relief?).

Spew your propaganda elsewhere. You obviously have NO clue or are deviously seeking to misinform.

Run along!
LOL ok?
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Formerly New England now Texas!
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Originally Posted by SeminoleTom View Post
Saw this on 60Minutes this evening about some churches and synagogues defying President Trumps Executive Order and harboring illegals. As a Christian that is middle of the road politically I think it's interesting because it goes against the stereotype that all Christians are right winged. I'm not sure how I feel about this at the moment but was interesting nonetheless. Link below...

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsne...ion-crackdown/
This is OK because we now live in a theocracy, or because you hate Trump?
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:15 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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This is the most tired argument that anti-immigration people make. Opening up the country and opening up a house are, obviously, two completely different concepts. You haven't open up your house; he hasn't opened up his. Are immigrants knocking on your door and asking to come in? If not, it is a completely moot argument that you're making.
Here's the absolute failure of your knee jerk response. Nowhere did I state I was "anti-immigration". Anti-ILLEGAL immigration yes, absolutely it must stop.
Nice try at warping what was said...
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:32 PM
 
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This is the most tired argument that anti-immigration people make. Opening up the country and opening up a house are, obviously, two completely different concepts. You haven't open up your house; he hasn't opened up his. Are immigrants knocking on your door and asking to come in? If not, it is a completely moot argument that you're making.
So the country should adopt a policy to keep illegals when you, an advocate of such policy, wouldn't house one in YOUR home?
Only if virtue-signaling from the confinement of a comfortable home was an Olympic sport ...
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