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I believe that the government should prosecute anyone who knew of the radicalism of any person who mentions violence against others and sit still and don't report. That's one step to protect us from nail bomb losers.
That is one solution but we need as an effective problem-solving technique is to get to the root cause of the problem.
Obviously we must define the problem accurately first before be start our analysis of the root causes.
There are all sorts of terrible evils and violence going around the world and all evils must be addressed.
To be efficient we need to break down this massive loads of evils and violence into manageable units [by types, etc.]
Out of all the types of evil and violence it is obvious the ones committed by SOME [not all] who happened to be Muslims are very notable and had greatly affected public consciousness. So humanity must give it the necessary focus and attention.
Based on my research, the ultimate root cause of the terrible evils and violence committed by SOME Muslims is significantly due to the evil and malignant elements within the ideology of Islam.
Therefore the solution is to get rid of these evil and malignant elements within Islam [Quran being the core text]. Then no Muslim will have any 'divine' support to kill non-believers as a mean to secure their place in Paradise. Better still if Islam can be banned since it is immutable [commanded by God] and cannot be changed by humans.
One reason why it is so difficult to nail Islam as the culprit and identifying its evil malignant elements is the Quran is a very messy book [deliberately done or literal incompetence] for most to read and make sense. However the evil and malignant elements nevertheless do influence the evil prone Muslims [not all] to commit terrible evils and violence.
Though the evil prone Muslims must be accountable for what they do, they are not to take the ultimate blame because they were unfortunately born with an active evil tendency which was triggered by the evil elements from the Quran under the threat of eternal hell or eternal life.
The critical focus must be on the Quran and its evil and malignant elements.
If its so easy, why hasn't anyone done it again in the past 22 years?
Because the very small % of people that have a death wish, have no clue how easy it is, nor the funds it takes to produce it, nor the legit motive to obtain ammonium nitrate in that quantity.
Small amounts at a time, can be bought at home depot in the garden dept.
Or you can just make it yourself.
One reason why it is so difficult to nail Islam as the culprit and identifying its evil malignant elements is the Quran is a very messy book [deliberately done or literal incompetence] for most to read and make sense. However the evil and malignant elements nevertheless do influence the evil prone Muslims [not all] to commit terrible evils and violence..
Then you have to explain why Sufi Muslims are practically meek as kittens.
Because the very small % of people that have a death wish, have no clue how easy it is, nor the funds it takes to produce it, nor the legit motive to obtain ammonium nitrate in that quantity.
Small amounts at a time, can be bought at home depot in the garden dept.
Or you can just make it yourself.
A bomber isn't restricted to small quantities of ammonium nitrate either. Anyone can steal gallons of the stuff at this time of year off any large farm if they have the nerve and a little bit of equipment- the stuff is used as commercial fertilizer and as a solid, is sold in 55 gallon drums. As a gas, it's sold in tanks as big as home heating propane tanks.
That's exactly how Timothy McVeigh got enough of the stuff to blow up a multi-story building in Oklahoma City. McVeigh boosted the power of the nitrate with canisters of propane, which is readily available anywhere. Destroying the Murrah building cost him about $1,000 bucks, including the truck rental.
All The stuff is plentiful, cheap, and as close as the corner store, especially in the spring time.
There are more restrictions on bulk purchases now, but the nitrate can still be purchased in many ways, and can be resold, stolen, and/or transported without any strict restrictions across state lines legally. Illegally, anyone can move it around, steal it, buy it, make it and sell it a lot easier than selling drugs or other illegal stuff.
You're also right- it can be made at home, but making enough for a big bomb would take a ton of chickens. If someone industrious enough was to hit a large chicken farm's manure pile, though, a truckload or two would be plenty enough for some serious explosives.
Chickens aren't the only critters who produce lots of ammonium nitrate. Bats make a lot, as do other critters, and so do we. It's all about concentrating the stuff if using it for an organic bomb.
To a dog, ammonium nitrate smells just like chicken poop. That's what it smells like to humans, anyway, so I expect a dog would too. I think dogs could smell the zinc on zinc coated nails if they were trained for it. Anything we can smell they can smell much better.
I'm amazed Bentlebee didn't know a bomb needed explosives to become a bomb.
Some bombs don't even need something hard like steel to do their work- just the power of the explosion is enough to destroy. Thats what took the Murrah Building in OK city apart, not the shrapnel from the truck the explosives were in.
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I'm amazed Bentlebee didn't know a bomb needed explosives to become a bomb.
Some bombs don't even need something hard like steel to do their work- just the power of the explosion is enough to destroy. Thats what took the Murrah Building in OK city apart, not the shrapnel from the truck the explosives were in.
Where did you get that idea, I didn't know OKC was classified as a concision bomb?
Adding a shrapnel component just makes it more devastating. Especially in smaller ordnance.
Where did you get that idea, I didn't know OKC was classified as a concision bomb?
Adding a shrapnel component just makes it more devastating. Especially in smaller ordnance.
The OK bombing had both, but the concussion was much greater than the shrapnel. McVey spent a lot of time learning how to amplify the explosion, and stacked many canisters of propane around the 55 gallon drums of nitrate in a way designed to shape the charge, directing the explosion toward the front of the building.
It was essentially a huge land mine by design, blowing the blast forward, not up or out in all directions.
I listened to a security expert last night discuss how fencing can be used to set up safety perimeters around facilities with large crowds. They can be set up similar to lines at amusement parks in a zig zag fashion to keep people moving in and out, cut down on loitering right outside the facility, and create space between the facility itself and any people who may be milling about outside. Probably a great idea.
Probably a stupid idea if you're trying to reduce concentrations of people. Might protect structures.
Lets say we have a zig-zagging line people are in there say they're averaging 3' separation front/back left and right, so one person every 9' square. OK you have a bomb lethal radius 50'. How many people are in lethal radius...? 872 people. Unless you security screen prior to entry to that, then you have the same issue at the security screen. Oh and that's not including injuries, just deaths.
Problem is its really difficult to stop large concentrations of people from forming for events, and if you manage it, then it's not much of an event. Ideally what's needed is a way to process entry such that it's fast and prevents any formation of groups of people, that requires lots of security people screening, or lots of tech to scan large numbers, or both. Once inside you know everyone is low risk, and can be protected too.
If you want to think about it. Consider someone smuggles a bomb onto a 747-8 410 passengers maximum, all would die probably. OK same bomb with the zig-zagging line as I specified 872 people dead (in the lethal zone). Now if you've traveled recently think about the TSA lines and the massed concentrations of people, with entirely unrestricted access to those people. How is that better if the target is maximized carnage? It's not much different at most events these days either as far as entry is concerned.
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