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View Poll Results: Is it a Basic Human Right of European People to be Protected By the US Against Russia?
YES - It is a Basic Human Right for the US to Protect the tiny EU against Massive Russia! 1 4.76%
NO - I am Deplorable. 20 95.24%
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-28-2017, 09:58 PM
 
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Is it a basic human right for people in Europe (except Ukraine ) to be protected by the United States from the evil Putin?

Reasons why this is a basic human right:

#1 The stats don't lie...the European Union is small, weak, poor, and incapable of defending itself from big, rich, powerful Russia.

European Union 509 Million People with a $16.31 Trillion GDP has nukes.

Russia 146 Million People with a $1.33 Trillion GDP has nukes.


#2 Europe already has massive debt. If they have to live up to their NATO spending obligations that they agreed to, they might have to cut back on other basic human rights like free healthcare and free college for their citizens. Maybe not instantly, but their budgets can't easily sustain long-term increased deficits.

Trump is demonically stealing the basic rights of Europeans.


#3 The scores of US military bases across Europe are a cash cow to local economies. It would be cruel to stop subsidizing these foreign cities by potentially closing down some of these installations.


#4 Putin is evil. He totally stuffed the ballot boxes, while the US would never interfere in a foreign election.
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Old 05-28-2017, 10:30 PM
 
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Europe is strong enough to defend and rich enough to support Europe.

We should be looked upon by all as a non-threatening (unless actually provoked), fair trading partner.

The Cold War era "US as the World's Cop" mentality is outdated, stale and unwelcome.
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:11 PM
 
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Stalin: "No one had ever come closer to destroying the US from within than me."

Putin: "Hold my vodka."
Bill Clinton; "No one had ever come closer to destroying Russia from within than me."

Hillary, his wife; "How did the Russians manage to turn the tables around? And where did this Putin come from? Help!"
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:20 PM
 
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nope
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:28 PM
 
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YES - It is a Basic Human Right for the US to Protect the tiny EU against Massive Russia!
NO - I am Deplorable.
This is the most stupid and devious poll I have ever seen. Seriously, it is beyond idiocy.
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Old 05-29-2017, 06:11 AM
 
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This is the most stupid and devious poll I have ever seen. Seriously, it is beyond idiocy.
Okay, Mr. Deplorable. Explain to me how it is not a basic human right for Europeans to get military protection from the US in case Putin advances.
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Old 05-29-2017, 06:22 AM
 
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Europe is strong enough to defend and rich enough to support Europe.

We should be looked upon by all as a non-threatening (unless actually provoked), fair trading partner.

The Cold War era "US as the World's Cop" mentality is outdated, stale and unwelcome.
Yet it took the US military to deal with the situation in Kosovo. Europe is unable to do anything about the Ukraine & the Crimea because the USA isn't willing to intervene. This speaks for itself.

And Europeans, especially the Germans would be horrified at the prospect of the USA closing all it's military installations in Europe. In contrast, there are 0 European military stations in the USA.
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:19 AM
 
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Yet it took the US military to deal with the situation in Kosovo. Europe is unable to do anything about the Ukraine & the Crimea because the USA isn't willing to intervene. This speaks for itself.

And Europeans, especially the Germans would be horrified at the prospect of the USA closing all it's military installations in Europe. In contrast, there are 0 European military stations in the USA.
U.S. military went it alone in Kosovo? Every NATO country except Greece participated in that one.

Didja just forget about that big ocean and a country bigger than yours between the U.S. and Russia while Europe proper and Russia are sorta 'hedge-clipping neighbours'?

Why in god's name would there be any need for European airbases in the U.S.? It's not like the Europeans want to bomb Canada for it's oil (U.S. already has first dibs on that through NAFTA) and need forward airbases to do so.

Germans would be the net winners if you shut down those airbases the U.S., with it's fubarred MIC dictated foreign policy, routinely use to stir up trouble all over the mid-east, creating the refugee problems you leave Europeans to contend with while chastising them for the manner in which they choose to handle it.

Marginalizing yourselves is a wonderful plan for the future of MAGA. Go for it.
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Old 05-29-2017, 08:05 AM
 
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U.S. military went it alone in Kosovo? Every NATO country except Greece participated in that one.
Yes and it was only fair that the US disproportionately (even for our size) spent more on the Kosovo War.

We may not be geographically closer, but we already spend so much on the hardware like planes and so forth.

We may have less to spend on our own people, but it is a basic human right that the US police Europe.

Yugoslavia/Kosovo War The True Cost of War
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Old 05-29-2017, 08:12 AM
 
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Okay, Mr. Deplorable. Explain to me how it is not a basic human right for Europeans to get military protection from the US in case Putin advances.
Because in order to establish your premise, you have to claim that we are slaves, that we have no choice in the matter to choose to help or not. This is the fallacy of your position.

You didn't not place the question as moral question of choice. You did not place the question as a moral obligation. You established the person who needs help as having a RIGHT to be helped.

You do not have RIGHT to demand from another.

This is why you people are CLUELESS when it comes to liberty and freedom.

If I have a RIGHT to demand of you, then it essentially means you are my slave and that.. that is not simply deplorable, it is down right EVIL!

Not a surprise considering you forced a conclusion on the poll choices rather than ask an honest question which is despicable in itself.
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