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This is indeed a BIG disappointment. I still give him a little wiggle room, as it's only a six-month waiver. However, if he does not follow through with this promise, God may punish Trump severely.
Only in the minds of Baptists and other ultra-conservative evangelicals. You have the book of Revelation all wrong. Public policy should never be based on prophetic beliefs of a fringe sect of evangelical Christians.
Moving the embassy is something only supported by Southern evangelicals to satisfy their end times fantasies. It makes zero public policy sense. Glad Trump is backing away from that.
People like you were spewing this nonsense every step of Israel's impossible existence. The Bible has already established Israel's triumph, so your gibberish is just that.
People like you were spewing this nonsense every step of Israel's impossible existence. The Bible has already established Israel's triumph, so your gibberish is just that.
If you believe that, you aren't Christian. Christ completely fulfilled the old covenant. The book of Revelation was detailing the sack of Jerusalem in 70 AD at the hands of Nero (whose number was 666).
"End times" beliefs serve only to induce fear and paranoia in the faithful and they are a useful tool to justify war and governmental overreach.
The President has to sign said waiver every six months. Obama signed the last one, now Mr. Trump. Yet, Mr. Trump campaigned on moving the embassy immediately upon taking office.
Now, the White House signed the six month waiver citing their concern over harming the 'peace process'. Of course, I am not aware of any significant talks going on, so no doubt President Trump will sign yet another waiver six months hence.
Fact is, every President since the 1995 Jerusalem Embassy Act has dutifully signed off on the waiver every six months, like clockwork. Some, like George Bush the Younger, also vowed to move the embassy, but decided to keep signing the waiver so as to not harm the peace process.
Now, if a miracle happens and a deal is made in which Jerusalem is divided into two, with Israel and the Palestinians sharing the city as their respective 'capital', then, rather obviously, it would not take any 'political courage' to then, and only then, move the US Embassy to the Israeli side of the city.
President Trump proclaimed that he had the political courage to immediately move the embassy. He did not.
I am not upset with him, for I also feel that the move would jeopardize the peace process, such as it is.
How would you know? This is something he has wanted for a long time, and finally someone promised to get it done, and then the promise was taken back.
Nah. The Israeli capital in Tel Aviv works fine and dandy right where it is. Netanyahu understands full well why Jerusalem is a terrible location as a capital city.
Jerusalem is essentially still a medieval city. The streets are narrow, very crowded, and twist around with no civil planning, so there is never a direct route anywhere in the middle of the city to anywhere else. The city is built on many rocky promontories that require steps up and down all of them, making modern transportation impossible. It's all a crowded warren.
Not at all a good place to run a government from, especially as a city divided into 3 separate sections, each hostile to the others. There's not one Jerusalem- there are 3; christian, jewish, and muslim, and all 3 have their own internal divisions.
Tel Aviv, 60 miles away on a super highway, is a modern city. The roads are straight, access to all government buildings is easy and secure, it lies on the coast, so it has access to the Med, has the room to spread out, and is in Israeli territory that has been secure ever since the nation was first founded.
Trump's promise to move the embassy was just a bone-headed gesture to his fundamentalist voters who see Jerusalem symbolically, as the center of the Bible, not the real ancient city it actually is, with real-world problems and full of real-world obstacles that make life difficult there for all, but would be especially difficult for our embassy staff and for conducting embassy business.
But that's Trump. He doesn't know squat about most things. But never believe Netanyahu was outraged; if anything, he breathed a sigh of relief. The very last thing he wanted would be the need to protect a U.S. embassy in a location where protection is impossible from attack.
Bibi has to walk a very careful path. He sure does not want mid-east war to break out in Jerusalem, and that war could have easily started with a bombing of a U.S. embassy located there.
This is indeed a BIG disappointment. I still give him a little wiggle room, as it's only a six-month waiver. However, if he does not follow through with this promise, God may punish Trump severely.
Nah. The Israeli capital in Tel Aviv works fine and dandy right where it is. Netanyahu understands full well why Jerusalem is a terrible location as a capital city.
Jerusalem is essentially still a medieval city. The streets are narrow, very crowded, and twist around with no civil planning, so there is never a direct route anywhere in the middle of the city to anywhere else. The city is built on many rocky promontories that require steps up and down all of them, making modern transportation impossible. It's all a crowded warren.
Not at all a good place to run a government from, especially as a city divided into 3 separate sections, each hostile to the others. There's not one Jerusalem- there are 3; christian, jewish, and muslim, and all 3 have their own internal divisions.
Tel Aviv, 60 miles away on a super highway, is a modern city. The roads are straight, access to all government buildings is easy and secure, it lies on the coast, so it has access to the Med, has the room to spread out, and is in Israeli territory that has been secure ever since the nation was first founded.
Trump's promise to move the embassy was just a bone-headed gesture to his fundamentalist voters who see Jerusalem symbolically, as the center of the Bible, not the real ancient city it actually is, with real-world problems and full of real-world obstacles that make life difficult there for all, but would be especially difficult for our embassy staff and for conducting embassy business.
But that's Trump. He doesn't know squat about most things. But never believe Netanyahu was outraged; if anything, he breathed a sigh of relief. The very last thing he wanted would be the need to protect a U.S. embassy in a location where protection is impossible from attack.
Bibi has to walk a very careful path. He sure does not want mid-east war to break out in Jerusalem, and that war could have easily started with a bombing of a U.S. embassy located there.
No, they do want Jerusalem to be the official capital of Israel.
After much anticipation, President Trump has decided to postpone his campaign promise to move the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. He signed a waiver Thursday to keep the embassy in Tel Aviv for the time being.
I wouldn't take it as a broken promise yet as Trump did not say when he wouldn't do it. You can bring it up again in 3.5 years if he doesn't to do if he doesn't get re-elected.
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