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Old 06-02-2017, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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My question is...shouldn't these states have been doing all this environmental friendly stuff.....all along, anyway?

What's the point of having a state government if they don't do anything to make their own state environmental friendly?

But, sure, I guess.
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:30 AM
 
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My question is...shouldn't these states have been doing all this environmental friendly stuff.....all along, anyway?

What's the point of having a state government if they don't do anything to make their own state environmental friendly?

But, sure, I guess.
What this all tells me is that these so called "environmentally friendly" states weren't doing much at all if they feel they need to have some sort of agreement to do it.
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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The right loves to use the term butthurt. Must be that many on the right have a physical problem or have certain desires.
The left loves to use the term "tRump." I guess they have a thing about rumps.
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:50 AM
 
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You ever look into US population growth and it's impact on GDP re: consumer demand and household formation?

Our growth is half what it was in the 1950s and half of that today from immigration. Without that "importation of people" our economy is screwed. And that is not even debatable, unless long term negative GDP growth is somehow desirable to you?
All that matters is per capita wealth, not overall wealth, and ZPG would have been reached in the 1970's without mass immigration. I'll posit that the US could manage perfectly well with 200M people.

Your point is silly since the endgame is an ever-increasing base of people to 'grow' the economy. The physical limit is a ball of human flesh growing at light speed.

So there you have it folks, the US is 'screwed' without moar and moar and moar people.
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities (StP)
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Can someone explain to me why a warming climate is inherently bad? Is it because all of these people on the coasts will have to move as sea levels rise?
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Can someone explain to me why a warming climate is inherently bad? Is it because all of these people on the coasts will have to move as sea levels rise?
That's why they're calling it "Climate Change" now. Because in some cases, it's been getting colder and warmer in some instances.

Basically, long story short....*Spoiler alert*

The weather changes every year. And it can be difficult to predict.

SHOCKER!
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Old 06-02-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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My question is...shouldn't these states have been doing all this environmental friendly stuff.....all along, anyway?

What's the point of having a state government if they don't do anything to make their own state environmental friendly?

But, sure, I guess.

what are you talking about ? CA has the highest standards in the union and they have been forcing RED states to comply to their standards or not be able to sell into their markets.

CA, WA etc are light years ahead of some of our polluting foul red states that want to further degrade the water and air their kids drink and breath
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Old 06-02-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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What this all tells me is that these so called "environmentally friendly" states weren't doing much at all if they feel they need to have some sort of agreement to do it.
well then you clearly need to do some reading . You drew the completely wrong conclusion.
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Old 06-02-2017, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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what are you talking about ? CA has the highest standards in the union and they have been forcing RED states to comply to their standards or not be able to sell into their markets.

CA, WA etc are light years ahead of some of our polluting foul red states that want to further degrade the water and air their kids drink and breath
Well, that's kinda the point I was making. So...
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Old 06-02-2017, 12:08 PM
 
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what are you talking about ? CA has the highest standards in the union and they have been forcing RED states to comply to their standards or not be able to sell into their markets.

CA, WA etc are light years ahead of some of our polluting foul red states that want to further degrade the water and air their kids drink and breath
What air and water is degraded? At least we have water. Last time I saw Lake Mead it wasn't looking too good. Looks like California's over population problem is hurting the environment, not just a man made lake.

https://ww2.kqed.org/science/2017/05/16/salton-sea/
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